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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 12 July 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Devolving Scotland

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Ariane Burgess

I do not know what the salary is at the moment. I think that it is around £19,000 per year.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Devolving Scotland

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Ariane Burgess

Thanks for that. That was a very interesting discussion. I now have a greater understanding of your thinking behind that.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Devolving Scotland

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Ariane Burgess

Thanks very much, Mark. That was interesting. Thanks for that positive response, Alison.

I want to pick up on one piece. You talked about coterminous boundaries. At the end of June, we will be going to Orkney, which is a single-island authority. Have you looked at what is going on there? We heard from Councillor Heddle at one point that that council has given budgets to its community councils on the surrounding islands so that they can make decisions at a local level with some financial backing.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Devolving Scotland

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Ariane Burgess

It is really important to point that out. It is helpful to hear that there may be a need for some powers that have already been devolved elsewhere to come to Scotland to help us with that.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Government in Scotland: Overview 2023

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Ariane Burgess

I have a number of mop-up questions. On the subject of wellbeing, is there any consideration of the four-day work week? Has that been looked at?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Government in Scotland: Overview 2023

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Ariane Burgess

Brilliant. When you were responding to Ivan McKee’s questions, you mentioned the opportunities from the Community Empowerment (Scotland) Act 2015 and how that has brought about communities doing asset transfers. I wonder whether our upcoming community wealth building bill could bring more opportunities for the collaboration that you have talked about, around the procurement of goods and services across local authorities. What are your thoughts on that? Antony Clark is nodding.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Government in Scotland: Overview 2023

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Ariane Burgess

It is very good that you have highlighted that. Speaking of English councils, I am aware that there are inshore fisheries and conservation authorities there. In England, there is overview of the inshore waters, managed at the council level. That is a really interesting model. In Scotland, we are probably struggling with having local stakeholder input into our inshore marine space. It is not just about fishing; many other people are involved in the inshore waters. The approach that is being taken in England and the fact that it is tied to a local authority is interesting. It is not necessarily appropriate to take models from England and use them as a sticking plaster to be placed over what is going on in Scotland, because we have a different structure to begin with, but it is interesting to look at that.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Government in Scotland: Overview 2023

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Ariane Burgess

I totally take on board the idea that we need a nuanced approach. Some of it is to do with the fact that we have many islands, a lot of coastline, a lot of big rural areas, and a high concentration pattern in the central belt. A nuanced approach is definitely needed. I get a sense that the situation is different from that in other parts of the UK, where there are not so many islands, for a start. We have a very different set of issues right off the bat.

I have one more question, which is about housing. The report expresses significant concern about the record number of children who are trapped in temporary accommodation, failing homelessness services, and a chronic shortage of social housing across the country. How can local authorities respond to those immense challenges?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Devolving Scotland

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Ariane Burgess

We now move to item 3, which is an evidence-taking session with Reform Scotland on its devolving Scotland initiative. The intention is that the session will allow the committee to further explore issues relating to the on-going review of local governance and build on the success of our recent joint event with Scotland’s Futures Forum on the future relationship between local and central government in Scotland. We are joined for this item by Alison Payne, the research director at Reform Scotland. I welcome Alison to the committee.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Devolving Scotland

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Ariane Burgess

I will start with a few questions, and then I will bring in colleagues. You once said:

“Scotland is unusual internationally in the weakness of its local authorities.”

I am interested in hearing why you said that and about how Scotland’s local democracy compares with that in other parts of the United Kingdom and Europe.