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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 24 December 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Portfolio Priorities and Cladding Remediation Programme

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Ariane Burgess

Yes.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Portfolio Priorities and Cladding Remediation Programme

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Ariane Burgess

That is fine.

Another question popped up when you mentioned net zero. When we had the housing minister in post, a lot of work was done around the fact that we have a massive roll-out of renewable energy in the Highlands and Islands region and that a lot of worker camps and housing will need to be put in place in order to unlock that economic potential. Some of the discussion was around whether there is an opportunity for that housing to become legacy housing for rural and island communities. Have you picked up on that and had conversations with the renewables sector about it?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Portfolio Priorities and Cladding Remediation Programme

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Ariane Burgess

The next item on our agenda is an evidence-taking session from Màiri McAllan, the Cabinet Secretary for Housing, on the progress of the Scottish Government’s cladding remediation programme and on her portfolio’s priorities. I welcome her warmly to her role. It is good to have her in our committee room, and we look forward to our conversation today.

Ms McAllan is joined by three Scottish Government officials: Matthew Elsby, deputy director of the better homes division; Stephen Lea-Ross, director of cladding remediation; and Jess Niven, interim deputy director of heat in buildings policy and regulation. I welcome them all to the meeting.

We will go straight to questions, and I will start. Members have a number of questions and interests, but the initial set of questions will focus on the cladding remediation programme. The pilot phase of that programme was launched in 2021 and I would be interested to understand whether that has now ended, what the results of the pilot were and what lessons have been learned to inform future action.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Ariane Burgess

We have heard the concerns that David Anderson voiced around static gear not being included appropriately in the consultation process. I am interested in the other witnesses’ perspective on static gear. From what we have heard, even methods that are considered lower impact can still add pressure when used at scale. How do you see the industry balancing that with the need to protect ecosystems, so that fishing remains viable in the long term?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Ariane Burgess

What type?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Ariane Burgess

Okay, so we need to ensure that Marine Scotland and the marine directorate have the resource and the budget for that.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Ariane Burgess

It is a short question for Kenny Coull. In the context of trust, you talked about the importance of REM and VMS so that we have vessel monitoring going on. I am aware that there are a very few situations—it is not everyone—in which there is illegality. For those folks who feel that they need to turn off equipment and go dark, how do we support them to realise that, in gathering data and sharing information, they are part of something really important?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Ariane Burgess

I have a supplementary question on that. I get the whole piece around adaptive management and the need to monitor, feed back and make adjustments to the plans that have been put in place so far, but how do we filter that down to the folks who are actually out at sea?When I talk to people in Shetland or other fishers, they say, “I’m out fishing and I’m surrounded by cod. Why can I not fish cod?” Somebody on the west coast might talk about a similar experience—not necessarily with cod, but their direct experience is that they see a lot of the species that they are not allowed to catch in an area where they are not allowed to work.

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How do we help to feed the data back? What does the Government need to do to get it to the people on the ground? We heard earlier—Caitlin Turner spoke well—about the struggle that people face in the day-to-day management of their businesses. They feel as though they are shut out of somewhere and they cannot work there. How do we help them? How do we support that information getting there?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Ariane Burgess

The one that looks like a wind sock—okay.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Ariane Burgess

MPA management brings economic benefits by setting up creel-only areas. Do you recognise those benefits for the offshore MPAs, or will the benefits really arise when we come to the inshore MPAs?