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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 27 April 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Government in Scotland: Overview 2023

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Ariane Burgess

Thanks very much for that. I was going to ask whether the overview showed any significant changes in local government finance and performance, but, in a way, you have laid that out already. I will ask a supplementary question about that, and, in response, you can pull out anything else that you want to highlight beyond the recommendation on the fiscal framework.

Given that the Scottish Government has allocated a total of £13.5 billion to local government in this financial year—that is up 3.5 per cent in real terms since 2013-14—can you set out why council budgets are now under such severe strain?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Government in Scotland: Overview 2023

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Ariane Burgess

Does anyone else want to come in on any highlights relating to the significant changes?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Government in Scotland: Overview 2023

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Ariane Burgess

Thanks for highlighting that. There are so many bits to keep track of.

As you are aware, we held a great event with Scotland’s Futures Forum on local government and central Government relationships—some of you were there; in fact, all of you might have been there. A number of people told us that local government is often seen as the delivery arm of central Government rather than its true partner. I am interested in your thoughts on how a new deal could change that and support a relationship that is based on trust. What could a new deal mean for the communities that local government serves?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Devolving Scotland

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Ariane Burgess

You mentioned that it had been recommended that responsibility for non-domestic rates be devolved. My understanding is that there would be concern if you had variation in rates for businesses that have branches in lots of different council areas. That would be a difficult one for them.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Devolving Scotland

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Ariane Burgess

Last week, we had a useful meeting with our counterpart committee in Wales. The members told us that, in Wales, there are four corporate joint committees that have a regional approach. They said that we should not adopt that approach too quickly, but it is interesting that, even though Wales is smaller, they have a regional approach for some aspects of decision making.

It comes down to what needs to be decided at a higher level and what needs to be decided more locally. Starting to decide what the decision-making domain is takes me back to the clarity that was called for at our new deal event with the futures forum. There were calls for clarity about which decisions should be made locally, with a more nuanced approach, and which things it makes sense to do at a higher level because we need a regional approach—roads are an example.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Devolving Scotland

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Ariane Burgess

That kind of opens something else up, but I will not go there.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Devolving Scotland

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Ariane Burgess

Thank you so much, Alison, for joining us. It has been tremendously helpful. We agreed at the start of the meeting to take the next items on the agenda in private, so, as that was the last public item today, I now close the public part of the meeting.

11:42 Meeting continued in private until 11:59.  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Rural Affairs and Islands Remit

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Ariane Burgess

I have a couple of questions about the thinking around the payments. One is about supporting farmers who are already growing or want to grow more fruit and vegetables or plant protein. As you know, horticulture uses less land and supports many more livelihoods in rural areas. I am interested in hearing what your thinking is about supporting more people to grow food in Scotland.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Rural Affairs and Islands Remit

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Ariane Burgess

How does the Scottish Government intend to use marine spatial planning tools such as the national marine plan and regional marine planning to mitigate the loss of fishing grounds that is associated with potential HPMAs and forthcoming inshore fisheries management measures?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Rural Affairs and Islands Remit

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Ariane Burgess

Thanks for that. I hear what you say about HPMAs being in Ms McAllan’s remit, but the issues are connected. The creelers and divers who have spoken to me have all said that they want to protect habitats for fish and shellfish so that they become more abundant and our seas can support more fishers fishing for more fish.

HPMAs, which are in effect fish nurseries, should be a policy that creelers naturally support. I believe that HPMAs, otherwise known as no-take zones, could still attract their support if the surrounding fisheries management measures give them sufficient space and protection from the mobile sector. I am looking for your reassurance that the Scottish Government is exploring ways to support low-impact creelers and divers so that our inshores can sustain more jobs in fishing, not fewer.