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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 10 July 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing to 2040

Meeting date: 20 February 2024

Ariane Burgess

Yes—it is exactly your thing.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing to 2040

Meeting date: 20 February 2024

Ariane Burgess

Does anybody have any thoughts on that? I am beginning to wonder whether this is the right group of people for these questions.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 February 2024

Ariane Burgess

The ban on snares illustrates the importance of this legislation. It will deliver real improvements in animal welfare, and I am convinced by the overwhelming evidence that we heard from the Scottish Animal Welfare Commission and others at stage 1—and, indeed, by the campaigning that has been carried out over many years by Scottish Greens and others—that the harm caused by snares cannot be mitigated.

An animal caught in a snare is injured and highly stressed, exposed to the elements and other predators, and denied food and water. Of course, snares are completely indiscriminate. They are as capable of trapping a protected species as they are of trapping a pet cat. A ban on snares would be a mark of the high regard that this country has for its iconic wildlife, so I will be pleased to support amendment 54.

I will turn briefly to Colin Smyth’s amendments. Although I have sympathy with his intentions, I am concerned that amendments 54A to 54J could, in practice, make it more difficult to implement the ban by overcomplicating the definition of a snare. I hope that discussions on that can continue ahead of stage 3.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 February 2024

Ariane Burgess

I would like to put on record some brief comments about the amendments in this group.

First, I support the minister’s amendment 56. It is appropriate that applicants for a trap licence have evidence that they have completed appropriate training. In that respect, I listened closely to the minister’s arguments in relation to amendments 10B and 10A.

On Colin Smyth’s amendments, I want to stress the importance of ensuring that the bill is passed before the end of the parliamentary year. I am concerned that amendment 113 jeopardises that by undermining what the bill is designed to do, which is to implement the recommendations of the Werritty review. I take on board the Government’s comments that amendments 114 and 115 tie into wider on-going work on ethical standards of wildlife management, and I hope that progress can be made on that route.

I appreciate the intention behind amendment 116, which is to shorten the time before trap operators require refresher training. I seek the minister’s assurance that the 10 years proposed in the draft legislation is appropriate in maintaining high animal welfare standards.

Likewise, I support the intention behind amendment 117. I think that data on the types of wildlife that are caught in traps would be valuable in other land management work, but I agree that this sort of thing does not need to be done in primary legislation.

Amendment 118 underlines the vital importance of trap training programmes being of a high standard and of placing animal welfare at their heart. I hope that the minister will be able to provide assurance that NatureScot will have the resources to assess training courses and approve only those of the highest standard.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 February 2024

Ariane Burgess

I put on the record my sympathy for the intention behind Colin Smyth’s amendments 107 and 108. Glue traps are inhumane and indiscriminate as a pest control tool, and I understand the concerns about unintended loopholes being created. However, I would like to know from the minister whether there is any scope for further discussion of the amendments ahead of stage 3.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 February 2024

Ariane Burgess

I want to speak to John Mason’s amendments, and I thank him for raising an important issue. The committee heard evidence about it at stage 1, but I recognise that a species licensing review is already committed to as part of the Bute house agreement, and I agree with not pre-empting the findings of that review.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 February 2024

Ariane Burgess

It is great that you are aware that that needs to happen. I now bring in Mark Griffin.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 February 2024

Ariane Burgess

That certainly is reassuring. I call Pam Gosal.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 February 2024

Ariane Burgess

I want to respond to that a little bit. We have heard about tolerable risk, and we have heard that, at the moment, there is a pass or fail approach, but experts and others are calling for a more nuanced approach. At the moment, a building could end up being in a high-risk category, but the situation could be more nuanced. What is needed is something that has an amber category—that is how people have been referring to it. Can you talk to that a little?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 February 2024

Ariane Burgess

It was just about the funding commitment. You pointed out that there is £41.3 million, but we visited a building for which it is estimated that about £40 million is needed to remediate it. From what you said in your previous answer, I understand that it is demand led and there will be more money coming, but, at the moment, that would be the amount for just one building. Obviously, different buildings will require different amounts.