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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 27 December 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Ariane Burgess

It was just one number in a grouping, not the groupings themselves.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Ariane Burgess

I was just finishing.

For all those reasons, I support those amendments.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Ariane Burgess

I will indicate my support for some of the amendments in the group. I support Rhoda Grant’s amendment 82, which would require ministers to make provision for publishing information about rural support that is provided. Rural land management impacts all of us, through its large impact, both positive and negative, on the environment, climate and our food supply.

For many people in Scotland, there is a sense that the wealthiest landowners receive the most public money simply for owning land, and that is unjust. For transparency’s sake, it is only right that the public can find out who is supported, how much they receive and why, and what public goods are enabled by that support.

For similar reasons, I support Richard Leonard’s amendment 13. If some landowners are not applying for support directly but are using third-party businesses to do so, the public and the public purse still have a right to know who is the ultimate recipient of that support. That would help to close any loopholes that might allow large landowners to receive support above the capping level, if they apply through more than one business.

I take on board the cabinet secretary’s point about the lack of a clear definition in Scots law of “beneficial ownership”. If we had a system, the information that would be published—thanks to Rhoda Grant’s and Richard Leonard’s amendments—could support the creation of a cadastral system for Scotland, which the Scottish Land Commission has recommended. That would be a set of records and maps that described the ownership boundaries, value and use of land, as is used in other countries such as the US and 14 EU members.

Having all that information in one place would be crucial for a carbon emissions land tax or any land-based replacement for council tax. If the information needs to be collected for those purposes anyway, there should be no reason not to publish it for transparency, provided that data protection is properly considered.

Publishing that information would also allow an external body to conduct a value-for-money assessment of the support that is provided, which I intend to propose at stage 3.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Ariane Burgess

I am interested in discussing this further and in bringing together the folks in the forestry sector and the RSE to get clarity in relation to the misunderstanding of how forestry EIA regulations work. The RSE has done a tremendous body of work. It would be helpful to keep it on board and to get some kind of collaboration going with the society.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Ariane Burgess

I am done.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4 (Annual Review)

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

Ariane Burgess

The point about regional hubs certainly came up at some point when we were doing work on NPF4 last year.

11:00  

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

Ariane Burgess

Thank you. We previously agreed to take the next three items in private. As that was the last public item on our agenda, I close the public part of the meeting.

11:36 Meeting continued in private until 11:39.  

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4 (Annual Review)

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

Ariane Burgess

I am sure that the chief planner and her team are very busy on that work.

Pam, do you want to come in with your other question?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

Ariane Burgess

The next agenda item is to further consider a negative Scottish statutory instrument. There is no requirement for the committee to make any recommendation on a negative instrument, but I am interested to hear any comments on the amendment order. Do members have any comments?

Members: No.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4 (Annual Review)

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

Ariane Burgess

It is great to hear that the training is happening. Is that sufficiently resourced to keep it going? From what Morag Ferguson said, it seems that we need that to continue.