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Do you want to say a bit more about that and unpack it a little bit for us so that we can understand it?

Thanks very much. As I said, I would be interested to hear an update on the single building assessment programme.

The Minister for Housing will be on the next panel, of course. The committee is glad that we have a housing minister to address that part of our remit. I agree with Chris Ashurst. I hope that we will see something more of the momentum that he talked about.

I thank both of you very much for coming in and sharing your perspectives on the work that you have been doing. That has been really helpful to us in our work.

I now suspend the meeting to allow for a changeover of witnesses.

For panel 2, we are joined by Paul McLennan, the Minister for Housing. Mr McLennan is accompanied by Government officials. Stephen Garvin is deputy director for building standards, and Rachel Sunderland is deputy director at the cladding remediation unit. Good morning and welcome.

Minister, can you provide an update on the single building assessment programme?

I made a note about Chris Ashurst’s comment on regular communication with people even if we do not have anything new to tell them, so I am glad that you picked up on that.

Is there something that we need to look at around tenure? I hear that we have a problem with a different tenure system. We have to sort out the current issues but, looking to the future, do we have a tenure system that causes problems?

Thank you. I will bring in Mark Griffin, who joins us online.

That is useful, and it is helpful to understand that you are aware of the potential need for more nuance.

Before I bring in Annie Wells, there is something else that I want to put to you, Stephen. You spoke about remediating buildings that were built at a particular time but that we have different standards now. I made a note to ask whether there is an opportunity, without slowing things down—I would not want that to happen—to look also at retrofitting buildings while we are remediating them, so that we do not have to go back to them to make them net zero in the future, and that kind of thing.

Thanks, Marie. I bring in Ivan McKee.

Okay. That may be something for us to explore in the future.

Thank you very much for coming in this morning and giving your perspectives on the issue.

We agreed at the start of the meeting to take the next agenda items in private, so I close the public part of the meeting.