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Thanks very much. That is very helpful.

Thank you very much for that, Annie.

Fionna Kell wants to come in.

I would also be interested to hear an outline, in broad terms, of what is meant by the in-principle agreement on the safer building accord that you reached with the developers.

I want to come back to the need to look at legislation. Can you say a bit more about that? Is it legislation on tenure?

I want to come back to the technical questions. In the previous panel, it was interesting to hear from Chris Ashurst and Fionna Kell about risk. At the moment, we have a system in which the grading is high or low, with nothing in between, but there are buildings where the risk is, possibly, lower and the way in which we should assess them might need to be different. Are you considering that and taking it on board?

I am glad to hear of your awareness and that that is part of your discussions.

You would not get on the wrong side of me, minister. It was directed at my colleague Miles Briggs. It is just that there is another convener in the Parliament who uses his pen to get the members to wind up, and I thought that I perhaps need to start using that code as well. [Laughter.]

We have gone over our time, but one thing that concerns me is orphan buildings. I am thinking not so much about the past, but about the future. Do we have something in place, or are we going to put something in place to address that? If a company goes out of business, we will get an orphan building. Are there measures that we can put in place to make sure that buildings can be reassessed? When we talked about the subject last year, I think that it was Chris Ashurst who brought up the idea of an MOT. Is there something that we can do to ensure that, when a developer builds a building, we can always link it back and check up on them so that we do not end up with orphan buildings?

Something like that—yes.

Great. Thanks very much.

Good morning and welcome to the 16th meeting in 2023 of the Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee. The first item on our agenda is to decide whether to take items 3 and 4 in private. Do members agree to do so?

Members indicated agreement.