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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 20 February 2026
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

We are going to change themes. I will bring in Willie Coffey on energy efficiency and decarbonisation.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

I do not know whether you have given us that sequencing. It would be helpful to see what you are working to, if that is possible.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

There are seven sectors in the plan, but there is not a dedicated sector for local authorities, because there is a thread of expectation running throughout. Annex 3 assumes that there will be extensive local authority delivery, but my sense from our evidence sessions is that the roles are not clearly defined in that space.

When we had that evidence session with the Society of Local Authority Chief Executives and Senior Managers, COSLA, the Scottish Climate Intelligence Service and a couple of others, I was very moved by the fact that they really wanted to get on with it and were ready for it. That was fantastic. It is important to do whatever we can at the national level to support that and to remove blocks and barriers.

As you have said, local authorities are different. They will start from different places on what they need to address. I am interested to hear how confident you are that all local authorities are in a position to drive the level of progress that the plan depends on. What will the Government do in situations where councillors are struggling to keep up the pace?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

Thank you. We will move on to a new theme—costs, finance and council capacity—on which Evelyn Tweed will begin the questioning.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

We will move on to questions from Fulton MacGregor, who is joining us online. [Interruption.] Fulton, your mic is not on yet. Hang on a minute. This is where we get to have a little pause and catch our breath.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

Yes.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

That would be great.

Willie Coffey is not done with his questions, but we will move to Mark Griffin for the moment and then come back to him.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

I will broaden the discussion a little bit, because it has been flagged to the committee that transport is one of the hardest areas in which to get a shift, whether that is modal shift or something else.

I saw nodding heads. Do you recognise, through the climate change plan, that transport is the hardest area, and that we therefore may need additional financial support and clearer recognition in that space to support local authorities with initiatives such as EV roll-out and integrated ticketing? Willie Coffey highlighted the very good example of park and ride, which would support behavioural change among people who want to take public transport.

What does the Government see in that regard? We have the Verity house agreement, so local authorities are empowered to do their own thing, but it is the Government’s climate change plan. What kind financial support would come with that acknowledgement?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

Thanks for setting out those examples. Are you looking at integrated ticketing? Even though we have the Verity house agreement, it would make sense for ticketing to be a national process, given that people travel throughout the country. For example, I travel from Moray through numerous local authorities to arrive at Edinburgh. Will integrated ticketing be considered at a national level?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

I have a couple of questions about data. I represent the Highlands and Islands, and when, in 2021, I went off to visit folks around the region, I met and spoke to climate officers across local authorities. At that point, their feeling was, “Oh right, we’re in this new role. What are we measuring against? What are our benchmarks? What are we all trying to do? Is there anything coherent?”

At that time, there was no sense of everyone having to do the same thing, so we had local authorities doing different things. Is the aim of the Scottish Climate Intelligence Service to get some coherence and create a bit of a benchmarking framework, to ensure that local authorities are looking at, and we are measuring and monitoring, the same things?