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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 6 February 2026
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

I have a couple of questions about data. I represent the Highlands and Islands, and when, in 2021, I went off to visit folks around the region, I met and spoke to climate officers across local authorities. At that point, their feeling was, “Oh right, we’re in this new role. What are we measuring against? What are our benchmarks? What are we all trying to do? Is there anything coherent?”

At that time, there was no sense of everyone having to do the same thing, so we had local authorities doing different things. Is the aim of the Scottish Climate Intelligence Service to get some coherence and create a bit of a benchmarking framework, to ensure that local authorities are looking at, and we are measuring and monitoring, the same things?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

Right.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

Thanks—that is great.

Going back to the conversation on early warning indicators, I note that annex 3 of the plan relies on those indicators, while the plan, in general, seems to be going for more of a back-loading approach. We seem to have a lot of staging grounds and a lot of preparation happening up to 2030, and then suddenly, somehow, we have to move very quickly.

That raises a lot of questions about confidence. I am concerned about the fact that a lot is going to come towards the end of session 7. After all, 2030 is pretty much the last year of that parliamentary session, and then we will suddenly be into session 8—and that is when we are going to get some movement. Have you been thinking about the timing?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

The next item is an evidence-taking session on the 2026-27 budget with Màiri McAllan, the Cabinet Secretary for Housing. We are also joined by the following witnesses from the Scottish Government: Sean Neill, director for housing; Kirsty Henderson, acting head of performance and finance in the more homes division; Kersti Berge, director of energy and climate change; Gareth Fenney, interim deputy director of heat in buildings delivery; and Stephen Lea-Ross, director of cladding remediation. I welcome you all to the meeting. There is no need for you to turn on the microphones. We will do that for you.

I invite the cabinet secretary to make a brief opening statement.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

Great—thank you.

You mentioned the construction sector. Construction inflation and viability are clearly central to whether homes get built. I would be interested to get a sense of what assumptions you are using for construction cost increases over the next four years. Do you expect the grant per home to keep rising, or do you expect the sector to absorb more of the costs?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

That is very helpful—although I guess that we are about to arrive at a moment of uncertainty, with the upcoming election. We will see where we get to.

I will now move on to a question on the Scottish National Investment Bank and the work that you are doing in that space. You have said that you are going to work with the Scottish National Investment Bank—otherwise known as SNIB—to accelerate housing investment and bring in more private finance. I would be interested to hear about exactly—or as exactly as possible—what work is going on and when we will see tangible outcomes such as new funds, new partners or an increased number of starts.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

It is helpful to hear that.

I am going to bring in Alexander Stewart, who has a question on the same theme.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

It would be great to see that when it comes. Thanks very much.

Our last theme is cladding. I will bring in Fulton Mackay, who is joining us online—Fulton MacGregor, even. I do not know why I said Fulton Mackay. That is going back a few years.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

You have assured us that there will not be an underspend, but if there were, what would that mean for people living in affected buildings and for upcoming programmes in future years?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

That is great. We appreciate the updates on cladding.

The committee has been addressing an area that is kind of similar but different to cladding: reinforced autoclaved aerated concrete. Meghan Gallacher has some questions, possibly on cladding but also on RAAC.