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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 31 January 2026
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

That concludes our questions. Thank you for a good discussion this morning. We appreciate it.

That concludes the public part of the meeting.

10:51

Meeting continued in private until 11:09.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

I direct this question specifically to Emily Taylor, given the training that the centre does. I am interested in the issue of seasonal work patterns, which is noted in our papers. I wonder how we get around that. How are you training and thinking about managing the workforce for that?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

Sure. I have a number of questions on funding, which I will direct initially to Emily Taylor and Peter Hutchinson; I also have a specific question on tax and private finance for Hanna Wheatley.

In general, I would be interested to know whether the existing funding mechanisms and the amount of funding are going to be enough to deliver what is in the draft climate change plan. I will start with Peter Hutchinson on that and will then go to Emily Taylor, followed by anyone else who wants to come in.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

I want to ask a couple of questions about something that we have started to touch on already, which is the areas that should be prioritised for planting from a carbon perspective. We have already heard from Alessandro Gimona about mineral soils, arable land and field margins, but are there other areas that we should prioritise?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

I asked a question earlier about whether funding streams support what we are trying to do. Certainly, from my conversations, I do not have a sense that existing policies and funding streams support the kind of integrated approach that you have described. Alan McDonnell, can I hear a little more from you about that?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

Alan, you touched on the trade-offs, which I want to come back on. We want to establish woodland in some areas, but we could be using that land for other things, and there could be other benefits. It would be interesting to hear about that.

Dr Gimona, when you talked earlier about planting, you were very careful to mention that we would not be planting on arable land and that we would not be moving out farming; the planting would be integrated. You talked well about the multifunctional land use strategy, which would be more integrated rather than moving away from the idea of trade-offs and would look at that nuanced approach of integration.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

We have established where we should prioritise: arable land, field margins, riparian corridors, urban fringe—which Mike Perks talked about in relation to Glasgow—and, potentially, brownfield sites. Does the draft climate change plan, or do the existing policies and funding streams, actually prioritise those areas?

12:15  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

So, you are saying that we need to encourage the Government to look more broadly at opportunities for how we finance restoration. Basically, you think that the committee might need to highlight that in our report on the plan. I think that I am hearing you.

My next question is: do you have confidence in the development of a values-led, high-integrity market for responsible investment? You might know about Professor Jill Robbie’s work on a public carbon trust. I was working with her in an attempt to get that brought forward so that we can have a system that pulls together all the carbon codes and so on and allows them to be verified, validated and monitored. Do you have any thoughts on the issue of a values-led, high-integrity market? Are we moving in that direction?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

Thanks for that great and comprehensive answer. I imagine that some of what we grow also ends up getting burned almost immediately.

To move on to the policies—

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

Yes—I want to ask the rest of my questions.

In a way, Stuart Goodall has touched on what I want to ask about, and it was good to hear from David Robertson about that initiative. The draft climate change plan includes two policies on harvested wood products. One is to continue to collaborate with the private forestry sector on the timber development programme to promote and develop wood products for use in construction, and the other is to work with the sector through the forestry and wood-based industry leadership group.

However, we do not have clarity on what the Government is aiming to do in that regard. Are there targets? What is the Government looking for in relation to production and the speed with which it wants to get more harvested wood products into the construction sector, other than just timber frames and some of the things that Stuart Goodall articulated? Can you give us a bit of clarity on harvested wood products? The policies seem to be somewhat vague. The Government has said that it will work with the sector, but what are we trying to achieve?