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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 31 March 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

I am aware of the time. We are almost an hour into the discussion, and we have not gone deeply into our questions. However, we have touched on the issue of damp and mould, which relates to what is coming next. Two more colleagues have questions, after which we will move on to the subject of RAAC.

I must ask everyone to be a bit more concise. We have got to the point at which, unless you hold a view that is the complete opposite of what has been said, I will ask you to hold off answering.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

Before I come to Louise Butchart, I will bring in Euan McCallum, because he has not spoken yet. He indicated that he wanted to come in on the previous question, but I missed that.

Euan, you can tell us about the numbers if you want, but also talk a little about the understanding in Angus Council of the damp and mould situation and how you are tackling it.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

It is great that you are doing that. Does anybody else want to come in?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

Louise, how is it going where you are?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

Does anybody who is online want to come in on that?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

Good morning, and welcome to the 10th meeting in 2025 of the Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee. I remind all members and witnesses to ensure that their devices are on silent.

The first item on our agenda is to decide whether to take items 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 in private. Do members agree to take those items in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

The next item on our agenda is to take evidence as part of our work on building safety and maintenance. We have about 90 minutes for this discussion. We are joined in the room by Murray Sharp, senior manager of housing at Clackmannanshire Council; Jackie Timmons, head of area based regeneration and shared repairs at the City of Edinburgh Council; Craig Dugdale, surveying manager at the City of Edinburgh Council; Louise Butchart, head of housing, construction and communities at Dundee City Council; and Gary Brady, city engineer in design and property services at Dundee City Council. We are joined online by Susie Fitton, policy manager at the Scottish Federation of Housing Associations, otherwise known as the SFHA; and Euan McCallum, acting housing assets manager at Angus Council. Welcome, everyone, and thanks so much for coming to help us to understand the issues.

We will go to questions. So that people who are watching are aware, I point out that some people on the panel are here to speak on issues relating to damp and mould, some are here to talk about RAAC—reinforced autoclaved aerated concrete—and some are here to speak on both. We will try to direct our questions to specific witnesses but, if you would like to come in, please indicate that to the clerk clearly. For those of you online, please indicate that you want to come in by typing an R in the chat function and we will bring you in.

There is no need for you to turn your microphones on and off—we will do that for you. For those of you online, there might be a bit of a pause before your microphone turns on. Do not worry about that. We know that that happens when folks are joining by Zoom—we are aware that there will be pauses.

I will start with a question on dampness and mould, which will be our initial focus this morning. The first questions are on tenants’ experience and landlord practice. I need to remember who to direct my questions to—this is for Louise Butchart and Craig Dugdale and for Susie Fitton or Euan McCallum, if they want to come in. We are interested in how the volume of tenants’ complaints about dampness and mould in their homes has changed in the past couple of years. Has it increased or reduced?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

Great. We come to Gary Brady.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

Thanks very much. That has been a very helpful beginning. I will bring in Willie Coffey, who has a couple of questions.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

Before we go on, I warn people that we are about to close the windows, which makes a noise. I did not want it to be done in the middle of responses, because it is a bit loud. [Interruption.] There we go.

The next question, which I will ask, is about other ideas for improvement. Murray Sharp has already mentioned the actions that the Scottish Government and the Scottish Housing Regulator are taking, such as the issuing of guidance and the collection of monitoring indicators. Is there any other action that the Government could take to drive forward improvements in the prevention and treatment of damp and mould in homes?