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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 30 November 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Ariane Burgess

We appreciate you doing that, so that we do not have to go through a lot of processes that might not be used. I am aware that there are lots of things in legislation that end up not being used.

That brings us to the end of our questions. Many thanks for your contributions. It has been useful to get some of the detail.

We previously agreed to take the next item in private, but given the time, I am now going to close the meeting.

Meeting closed at 12:47.  

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Ariane Burgess

Thank you for that detail. Questions on both those areas are coming up, so we might get into that a bit more.

I come to multiyear settlements, which have come up pretty much every year since I have been sitting in this chair—and for decades previously—and every time we have pre-budget scrutiny conversations. The aspiration to have multiyear settlements was set out in the Verity house agreement. How important is it that this year’s budget provides some indication of multiyear funding? I start with Katie Hagmann.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Ariane Burgess

Emma Roddick has a supplementary.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Ariane Burgess

Hang on a minute, Willie. I will bring in Katie Hagmann to respond very briefly, and then we will have to be really brief.

For the next questions, I must ask colleagues to start with Councillor Hagmann. Councillor Hagmann, can you bring in just one of your colleagues to respond, given that we are really tight for time? I know that that is difficult, because you all have valuable things to say but, as you have indicated, you can follow things up in writing.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Ariane Burgess

Thanks for that—it was really helpful to get that illustration. We definitely need more time with you in the future.

I will now bring in Mark Griffin, who joins us online.

11:30  

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Ariane Burgess

I am going to go against what I said about being pressed for time and ask you to highlight those three core principles.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Ariane Burgess

It is helpful to get that clear, because we were wondering whether the core principles were about poverty and climate change.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Ariane Burgess

We move on to the financial resilience of local government.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Ariane Burgess

It is good to hear about those behind-the-scenes processes.

I will now bring in Miles Briggs on a topic that the cabinet secretary mentioned earlier, in relation to capital.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Ariane Burgess

It has been an interesting morning.

I am moving on to the theme of the Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee’s recommendations. In 2018, the REC Committee inquiry recommended that

“urgent and meaningful action needs to be taken to address regulatory deficiencies as well as fish health and environmental issues before the industry can expand.”

As I understand it, since 2018, more than 50,000 tons of biomass has been given planning permission, but data from the fish health inspectorate and SEPA shows that in 2022 and 2023, four times more fish died in salmon farms than in 2018. Numbers from the fish health inspectorate show that in 2018, there were 3,782,475 seawater and freshwater deaths, and in 2023, there were 17.4 million seawater and freshwater deaths—the figures are as provided in the Scottish Parliament information centre’s briefings. Those numbers are huge underestimates, as they do not include any fish that died in the first six weeks at sea, or any deaths under the FHI’s weekly reporting threshold. As we have been discussing, that is 1 per cent of the total fish in a sea farm per week.

Given the REC Committee’s recommendation that regulatory deficiencies, fish health and environmental issues needed to be addressed before the industry could expand, why do you think that the industry should be allowed to expand? Why is the industry expanding when the recommendation was that things needed to be taken care of that clearly have not been taken care of?