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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 26 April 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Ariane Burgess

Okay—thanks. On Monday, we spoke to a crofter. Jo Hunt is an economist turned grower and vegetable-box producer. He worked out that support could be extended to the 100 market gardens in Scotland, with no actual additional demand on the public purse, by redistributing the basic payments. Currently, 68 per cent of basic payments go to 10 per cent of farms. Will you outline your current thinking about the capping, tapering and front loading that could help to redistribute payments in the future payment framework?

John Kerr was at a previous meeting when we looked at the bill with the bill team. He brought to my understanding the Government’s thinking that the money allocation is not fixed; it is a process because it is part of the just transition and will be evolving.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Ariane Burgess

No, it was not.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Ariane Burgess

You can come back to it.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Ariane Burgess

Okay, but do you have any sense of the timing? You do not want a certain date, but will it be within a certain number of years or a certain—

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Ariane Burgess

I might not have picked you up correctly, but part of my question was about new schemes or new versions of schemes. I guess that this touches on Alasdair Allan’s question, which was about the Scottish statutory instruments. Is it your intention to create entirely new regulations to govern those schemes? If so, how will the powers be set out and how are you going to use them in your work on the rural support plan?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Ariane Burgess

That would be very welcome. The clear message that I get is that we need to pay strong attention to the route map, because that is telling us where we are going.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Ariane Burgess

I will just continue my point for now, because I am collecting my thoughts here. It is interesting to note that the BTO data has already been used, because I am going to reference it. It is an interesting piece that highlights that we can use data in different ways. My approach here is a precautionary one.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Ariane Burgess

The data that I have refers to moorland birds in the English, Welsh and Scottish uplands.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Ariane Burgess

That is right, is it not? I have information from NatureScot about breeding seasons and dates here. It is interesting that we can all use and cite the same data but come at it in a different way. As I said, my amendment seeks to take a precautionary approach and future proof the legislation. I understand that other amendments would shorten the season by only two weeks. I will listen carefully to the minister’s views.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Ariane Burgess

I listened carefully to your comments on my amendment 154. I am satisfied by your assurance that the methods to minimise damage will be explored through the muirburn code and training requirements, so I will not move my amendment.