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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 17 January 2026
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

Okay. I am still not sure that I am getting the answer on the recommendation for robust interventions in that situation. but I will leave it there.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

Ben Hadfield from Mowi Scotland talked to the committee about wanting to get to 5 per cent. Do the marine directorate and the Scottish Government have some kind of role in supporting farms to move to that humane level?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

One thing that has come up through talking to all the different regulatory bodies as part of our inquiry is that mortality does not really sit anywhere. We heard from Charles Allan, when he came in with a different hat on—I think it was a different hat—that the fish health inspectorate, for example, does not have powers to limit production following a high mortality event. That is related to recommendation 10 of the Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee’s report, which says that

“there should be a process in place which allows robust intervention by regulators when serious fish mortality events occur.”

There is also an issue about gathering that data and getting that information. If it is the case that nobody has the powers to oversee that issue, something needs to be done about that. How would you define a “robust intervention”, and where would that intervention sit, so that we get that clarity around the situation and that mortality data?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

But what was the advice?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

I will follow on from Tim Eagle’s questions. We know that

“Fish welfare is the responsibility of the Animal and Plant Health Agency (APHA) but APHA investigates only a small sub-selection of reports of poor animal welfare on fish farms, if FHI (and occasionally third parties) notify it of high mortality events. It does not always inspect even the farms with the highest mortality.”

It is quite concerning that we have a body—APHA—that is required to investigate, but is not doing many investigations.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

Could you come back to the committee with a measurement that shows what APHA is investigating now and, with more resource, what it will do in the future?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

Thank you very much.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

I come back to the other part of my question, because I feel like that was skipped over. It was about downsizing or closing farms in the meantime, while we try to get to grips with the unnecessary suffering that is happening in those fish farms and fish cages.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

Okay. I will leave it there, but I do not necessarily take that as the case. I do not have the information in front of me, but I am aware of farms that have been restocking and have had problems. I will pull that out and ensure that the committee is aware of it.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

I will follow on from that. Cabinet secretary, I heard you say that the Government and marine directorate have more work to do on the data and reporting. A number of issues have come up on that. At the moment, it remains impossible for the public to check on fish farm compliance around bath chemical discharge licences, and SEPA has produced no compliance assessment scheme reports for companies since 2019.

Another issue is that data is given in different ways. SEPA and the FHI use different metrics, so data is not always comparable. Surely, it would be a fairly easy and reasonable step to address that discrepancy. Can we get a commitment from the Scottish Government and the marine directorate to move forward with making all that data not only publicly accessible but coherent, so that it is easy for the public to see whether a particular farm is compliant?