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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 January 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 November 2023

Ariane Burgess

You say that there is a definition in the route map, but it will be the ordinary meaning that is relevant to the bill, so what is the ordinary meaning of regenerative?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 November 2023

Ariane Burgess

I think we need to start having that long wished-for joined-up approach.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 November 2023

Ariane Burgess

I have a question on the same area. The bill says that ministers have to have regard to developments in law and policy in the European Union. Will that facilitate alignment with the EU CAP? Specifically, will the tier 1 minimum production standards to protect the environment, animal welfare and fair work, as referred to in the policy memorandum, align with EU conditions on base-level support?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 November 2023

Ariane Burgess

In your response to Rhoda Grant, you mentioned a commitment to a “review of the regions”. I imagine that you were referring to the payment regions. Is that what you were referring to? That is an important issue, which was raised on our recent visit to the Scotland’s Rural College farms at Crianlarich, where it was pointed out that it is possible to have two identical land holdings right next to each other, but one can receive higher payments than the other if it had a higher headage when the payment regions were established. Will you be sorting out those kinds of discrepancies in the review?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 November 2023

Ariane Burgess

I am glad that it is being considered somewhere.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 November 2023

Ariane Burgess

So it is about being able to react in the moment to something that occurs.

I note that matters to be considered in the plan include

“the proposals and policies contained in the climate change plan which relate to agriculture, forestry and rural land-use”.

What about transport? Given that we are talking about rural communities, do we need to be thinking about the transport aspect, too?

10:00  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 November 2023

Ariane Burgess

Thank you.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 November 2023

Ariane Burgess

Could you imagine a situation in which somebody applied to a scheme because they wanted to install animal production infrastructure that was polluting, but their land was close to a river and there were run-off problems? One purpose of the bill is to encourage nature restoration, climate mitigation and so on through regenerative agricultural practices. Could you envisage a scenario in which that would not be in the public interest and support payment was refused?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 November 2023

Ariane Burgess

My question is about continuing professional development—we have skipped forward. I would be interested in understanding how the Scottish Government anticipates using the powers relating to CPD. With the move to regenerative agriculture, nature restoration and climate mitigation and adaptation, farmers and crofters will need training, knowledge exchange and other support in order to meet the higher standards in tiers 2, 3 and 4. I would be interested to hear what the thinking is—this is maybe beyond the scope of the bill—on whether sufficient funds are allocated to CPD to ensure the transition to the new framework and whether it is a just transition.

11:00  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 November 2023

Ariane Burgess

Will meeting fair work standards, including paying the agricultural living wage, be a possible condition for support under the new scheme?