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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 4 March 2025
Ariane Burgess
It is good to hear that you recognise that.
I will move on and bring in other members.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 4 March 2025
Ariane Burgess
On your comment about people’s reactions to tax, we are, in a way, in an unfortunate situation. In thinking about how we become a modern and progressive Scotland, we often look to the Nordic countries, but what they show is that taxation is really important for all the public services that make life good for everybody. Perhaps, as part of the process of considering the council tax, we have an opportunity to give people a better understanding of what it actually does.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 4 March 2025
Ariane Burgess
That is interesting. As you say, income tax comes out of people’s wages, so they must see it, but there is something about council tax that makes it very prominent. Having reflected on our previous evidence sessions, I wonder whether it is because council tax has a historical link to the poll tax, which was so controversial. Perhaps that is it. Shona Robison, do you have anything to add?
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 4 March 2025
Ariane Burgess
I will pick up on the scope of the engagement. The idea of percentages came up at our meeting on 18 February. Would you consider talking to people about that? There are challenges with that idea and no one is necessarily advocating it, but what was said during that meeting suggests that a percentage system could be more proportionate and potentially fairer than the current banding system.
Would you be prepared to open up the engagement process to include discussion of that idea, so that people can understand that banding is not the only option? It might be the one that we end up with, but there could be other options.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 4 March 2025
Ariane Burgess
That sounds like one of the good next steps.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 4 March 2025
Ariane Burgess
I want to pick up on the 20 per cent IFS figure—the people whom it identified as being potential losers. In part of your collaboration and work together, will you try to dig into that data, to get an understanding of what the percentage really is?
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 4 March 2025
Ariane Burgess
I am glad to hear you say that we do not want to be here in a year’s time without having achieved anything. There is a sense of relief in the committee—and perhaps among our adoring fans, who are watching—about that.
Emma Roddick has a couple of questions.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 4 March 2025
Ariane Burgess
Good morning and welcome to the 7th meeting in 2025 of the Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee. I remind all members and witnesses to ensure that their devices are on silent.
Our first agenda item is to decide whether to take items 4 and 5 in private. Do members agree to do so?
Members indicated agreement.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 4 March 2025
Ariane Burgess
That sounds great. Alexander Stewart has a brief supplementary question.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 4 March 2025
Ariane Burgess
We have talked about trying to dive into the detail to determine how many people will be affected by the changes—the figure of 20 per cent of households has been given. I am interested in how you will approach engagement, because we have also talked about the number of people who are in arrears. If you have got to that stage, what is your thinking on how to engage with folk who are in arrears and have lived experience of struggling with council tax, as they will be some of the most vulnerable people in Scotland?