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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 22 April 2025
Ariane Burgess
It is good to get that clear. I want to bring in an overarching topic that we discussed when we took evidence in our first session on cladding, many years ago. I think you will remember it, minister—it was an unusual session in the Burns room.
A few things came up. One idea was to have a kind of MOT around the maintenance and operations of buildings, and that buildings need to be regularly checked. The other thing that came up at the time was how we track what materials are being used in buildings. The discussion demonstrates the difficulty of going back to find the buildings, putting out the open call, getting people to come forward and identifying the problem areas. Is that something that the Government is looking into or would consider looking into?
Also, what action could we take—this came up in evidence—to prevent developers from using experimental or inadequately tested materials as a potential cost saving as part of whatever they are developing? How do we make sure that developers build buildings with materials that we can say are future proof, so that safety is inbuilt in the first place?
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 22 April 2025
Ariane Burgess
Before you go on to your question on assessors, Meghan, I have a supplementary question. It would be helpful to understand how the Government is tracking, reporting on and monitoring the pilot programme. We had a wonderful, complex description from Alan Johnston, which was very helpful. How are owners and developers keeping the Scottish Government up to date on how things are developing?
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 22 April 2025
Ariane Burgess
We will move on to questions about cladding remediation. I will bring in Fulton MacGregor, who joins us online.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 22 April 2025
Ariane Burgess
Alexander Stewart has questions on the same subject.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 22 April 2025
Ariane Burgess
I want to pick up on Willie Coffey’s point about solar thermal. I take your point about the interest-free loan that is available. However, I hope that you will have a chance to look at the extensive evidence session that we had on damp and mould, when solar thermal was proposed for tackling it. As you will know, solar thermal means that the heating system does not start with cold water but with warmed-up water, so it does not have to use so much energy to heat the home. That was suggested as a response to fuel poverty.
I know that there has been a delay in the introduction of the heat in buildings bill that is partly to do with making sure that it will not push people into fuel poverty. I would therefore say that it could be good to look at a technology-neutral grant scheme.
Minister, you will recall that you came to the co-housing event. I want to flag up to you a point about investment and your earlier responses to Willie Coffey about people investing and the need for considerable investment. There is now an idea that people could invest to lock up carbon by using Scottish timber for retrofitting or new builds. It would great if the Government could take that on board and have a look at that. It will continue to be discussed. Rather than leaving the scope 3 emissions in trees that get blown down, we can use them to invest in housing that will not be blown down. You might have picked up on that at the co-housing event.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 22 April 2025
Ariane Burgess
Will you clarify in which piece of legislation those existing powers exist?
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 22 April 2025
Ariane Burgess
You just mentioned that there are existing powers that you could use.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 22 April 2025
Ariane Burgess
Super, thank you.
We will move on to retrofitting, fuel poverty and heat in buildings. I bring in Willie Coffey.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 22 April 2025
Ariane Burgess
It seems that you have covered it.
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 22 April 2025
Ariane Burgess
Looking at the evidence that we have taken on damp and mould, I am concerned that we need to get beyond simply using antifungal paint for mould that appears on a wall, because the mould is still there. Can we bring in a requirement for repairs that actually get to the deeper problem and which get mould spores out of people’s homes? I have heard from not just colleagues in this room but members across the chamber that reports of damp and mould issues are appearing in their inboxes. It seems to be a very challenging situation.
In our evidence session on damp and mould, a number of local authorities told us that they are beginning to take a much more proactive approach to addressing the situation, and they are getting in there and removing whatever has been contaminated with damp and mould. How do we support that process to ensure that people have homes that are fit and proper to live in?