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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 January 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

I want to clarify something. Are the two adjacent buildings that have insurance of a similar size and design to your development?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

Thanks very much. We will turn to questions from members. Please indicate to me or my clerk if you would like to respond to a question or to something that a panel member has said. Julie Jackson, as you are participating remotely, if you type R in the chat function we will pick up that you want to come in.

As I said to the first panel, the intention is that this will be a free-flowing conversation rather than a question-and-answer session. It will be quite tricky to get done in the time that we have, but let us see what we can do. As you have learned from going round the table, you do not need to operate your microphones. We will do that.

I will begin. I am interested to hear your views on the fact that the Scottish Government has not publicly consulted on the proposals in the bill. Given that, do you think that the bill addresses the concerns that house builders have been raising with the Scottish Government about cladding remediation over the past few years? Stephen Andrew is closest to me. You said you have that remit, so I will start with you.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

Does the bill address the concerns that house builders have been raising with the Scottish Government about cladding remediation over the past few years?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

We hope that we can bring those thoughts out, as we go on.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

Thanks very much for sharing your perspective. It is very helpful to hear about orphan buildings and the lack of engagement.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

I will bring in Paul Turnbull. A number of questions have been asked, but I will roll in another one, given that you are from the cladding working group. In addition to the bill addressing concerns, what actions could be taken now? Chris Ashurst said that the bill is growing arms and legs. I am interested in your thoughts on whether the bill should focus solely on cladding remediation or whether it should be extended to cover all fire safety issues or even all significant building safety matters.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

Thank you. Willie, are you still there? Do you want to ask a question?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

The question is about the assurance register. I will go with David Jones first and then Chris Ashurst, and then I will bring Pam Gosal in with her question. Pam, you can kick off with Perry Jenkins, who is at the top of my stack and when Pam Gosal asks her question, Perry, you can weave it in to your answer on this question.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

It is helpful to have that answer. Of course, although you are doing that work, not everyone else is. Therefore, we need to be aware that, at some point, a lot more work will need to be done.

There are many takeaways from this conversation, but am I right in thinking that your view is that PAS 9980 would provide the right scope for the remediation work?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

Thanks very much for that constructive point.

I am going to bring in Jodi Terras and Perry Jenkins, then I will bring in Willie Coffey for his questions.