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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 January 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

The other thing that has come up this morning here and also in the earlier panel is that there are other things in the air that need to be addressed. If you are already going in to do something, do you need to be addressing other things? You look puzzled, but I am thinking about retrofitting and the net zero agenda, which were talked about.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

Julie Jackson wants to come in.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

That was a comprehensive list. Does anyone else want to come in on that?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

I will pause there because you are opening up more questions and we will go into them in more detail later. I appreciate what you have said so far and it is good to hear that you welcome the bill. I am interested to hear whether you think that the bill should be solely focused on cladding remediation or does it need to cover all fire safety issues?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

Yes. Maybe there should be some guidelines after the bill comes in.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

That is a good point.

You may not be able to or may not want to answer this question, but it strikes me that some of what has come up this morning is about mobilising the right workforce—you have just highlighted the specialisms in local authorities. It is also about the supply chain, and the need to have all the materials ready in order to do the cladding project in Scotland. That made me wonder whether local authorities need to direct that resource for a period. If the bill is passed, what would that mean? Will there be a 10-year project? What level of resource will be needed to address the situation?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

Great. Thanks for bringing in those clarifying points. I will bring in Pam Gosal with her question, which will be directed to Perry Jenkins, and then we will see where we go. Then I will come to Sean Clerkin.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

Okay—great.

I thank those who were able to join us in the room this morning, and I thank Julie Jackson for joining us online—it was very useful to hear from you all.

We previously agreed to take the next item in private, so that ends the public part of the meeting.

12:14 Meeting continued in private until 12:30.  

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

We have UK Finance coming to one of our future sessions, so thanks for raising those issues.

Jodi Terras indicated that he wants to come back in on this point.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

Thanks for that. Before I bring in Stephanie Callaghan, a couple of people have indicated that they want to come back in briefly. They are Chris Ashurst and Perry Jenkins. David Jones wants to come in as well, but I will get Stephanie Callaghan in with her question and then we can pull David Jones into the mix, because time is marching on, although this is an important conversation.