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I think that you have a couple more questions to ask, Stephanie.

That is very helpful.

Phil Diamond, have you been able to engage?

If the ability to go into the building to remediate all those things that you listed had been in place as part of the pilot, you would have gone ahead with that to demonstrate a whole experience of a building being completely remediated. Is that the idea?

That has been a helpful opening discussion on the scope of the bill and what it includes and what it does not include. Some interesting points have emerged.

We will move on to questions from Willie Coffey.

I am getting confused. We talked earlier about the scope of the bill, and now we are talking about PAS and whether that is what we would want to use. Does PAS just look at fire safety? Earlier we were talking about the need to look at cladding in order to move that forward, and now we are talking about PAS, which looks at the whole fire safety of a building. Am I getting that right?

Do we want to use PAS to look at the whole building, but use the triage approach that Phil Diamond suggested to get on with the cladding part of it, while we understand that there are other pieces that we might need to come back and do? Could you explain a bit more?

Will you say a little more about the difference between data capture and a survey?

That might be taken offline and discussed a bit further. However, it also sounds as though you have tested the proof of the pudding, having gone through some of that difficulty, so that may be helpful.

I go back to Marie McNair, for her next question.

Stephanie Callaghan has a brief supplementary question.

Thank you. Miles Briggs will ask the final questions.

On our second panel today, we are joined in the room by John Marr, principal in devolved government and social housing at UK Finance; and John Sinclair, convener of the property law committee at the Law Society of Scotland. We are joined online by Calum McQueen, technical surveying manager at e.surv chartered surveyors. We are hoping that we will also be joined online by Mervyn Skeet, director of general insurance policy at the Association of British Insurers, and we are doing everything that we can to make sure that he will be able to join us.

I welcome our witnesses to the meeting. We will turn to questions from members. Please indicate to me if you would like to respond to a member’s question. Calum McQueen, as you are participating remotely, please type R in the chat function if you want to respond. There is no need to manually turn on your microphones as we will automatically do that for you, so it is one less thing for you to have to think about.

I will start with a couple of broader questions before we get into detail on some aspects of the bill. My first question is about your organisations’ consultation and engagement on the bill. The Scottish Government did not publicly consult on the proposals for the bill, but I would be interested to hear whether your organisations had any opportunities to input into its development. If so, how effective was the engagement in improving the bill?