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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 19 April 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

“Economic, Social and Cultural Rights in the Highlands and Islands”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

Is there any specific legislation that you have in mind, or should we just look at everything that comes through the Parliament? We have only 12 or 13 more months left of this parliamentary session.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Council Tax

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

No one else is jumping in, so I take it that there is agreement on that.

Further to that question, how can the recently announced engagement process in Scotland lead to anything different? How are we going to get there?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Council Tax

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

You specifically covered the question on water charges, which is clearly an issue. It was interesting to hear that people who are not paying council tax still have to pay water charges, which seems to be a bit of a discrepancy.

That concludes our questions. Thank you so much for joining us this morning. It has been helpful to hear the Scottish perspective, and I also thank our Welsh colleagues for joining us. You are certainly ahead of the curve and I hope that we can learn from what you have been doing and see some changes in Scotland at some point soon.

I will now suspend the meeting briefly to allow for our witnesses to leave the table.

11:11 Meeting suspended.  

11:13 On resuming—  

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

We previously agreed to take the next items in private so, as that was the final public item on our agenda for today, I close the public part of the meeting.

11:14 Meeting continued in private until 11:34.  

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Council Tax

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

Does anyone else have any thoughts on how we can achieve something through the latest engagement process?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Council Tax

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

I turn to our Welsh colleagues. I am interested in understanding why revaluation and reform of council tax has been such a priority for the Welsh Government when it has not been so in Scotland or England.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Council Tax

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

I invite Paul Ferguson to comment, and then Lisa Hayward, as we would like to hear the Welsh perspective, too.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

Good morning and welcome to the sixth meeting in 2025 of the Local Government, Housing and Planning committee. I remind all members and witnesses to ensure that their devices are on silent. We have received apologies from Mark Griffin MSP.

The first item on our agenda is a decision on whether to take in private items 4, 5 and 6. Do members agree to do so?

Members indicated agreement.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Council Tax

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

Before you move on, Matthew Evans wants to come in on the previous question.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Council Tax

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

The next item on our agenda is to take evidence as part of our inquiry into the council tax system in Scotland. I welcome our witnesses to the meeting. We have around 90 minutes for this discussion and a lot to cover, so I would be grateful if we could keep questions and answers succinct.

For this item, we are joined in the room by Paul Ferguson, who is a senior service manager for housing at Falkirk Council and a member of the Scottish executive of the Institute of Revenues, Rating and Valuation—otherwise known as IRRV; Heather Honeyman, who is assessor for Fife Council and president of the Scottish Assessors Association; and Brian Rout, who is assessor for Scottish Borders Council and secretary of the Scottish Assessors Association.

We are joined online by Matthew Evans, who is head of service in revenue and benefits at Wrexham Council and president of the Institute of Revenues, Rating and Valuation’s Wales association, and Lisa Hayward, who is finance policy officer for revenues and benefits at the Welsh Local Government Association.

We turn to questions from members. We will try to direct our questions to a specific witness in the first instance, but if you would like to come in, please indicate that to me or the clerks; Matthew and Lisa, please do that by typing R in the chat function. There is no need for you to operate your microphones, as we will do that for you.

I will start. The first area of questioning is the experiences of revaluation in Wales and the lack of revaluation in Scotland. Paul Ferguson, I will cue you up initially, and will bring in the folks from Wales later.

The 2015 commission on local tax reform was a major piece of work, involving consultation, research and cross-party engagement. I would be interested to understand from your perspective why, ultimately, it failed to lead to any significant changes.