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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 11 January 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Early Learning and Childcare: 1,140 Hours

Meeting date: 25 May 2022

Stephen Kerr

Are you saying that the impact that the policy would have on the PVI sector was already factored into the policy?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Early Learning and Childcare: 1,140 Hours

Meeting date: 25 May 2022

Stephen Kerr

When you say delivery, you mean inputs not outcomes—is that correct?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Early Learning and Childcare: 1,140 Hours

Meeting date: 25 May 2022

Stephen Kerr

I am interrupting to bring in Willie Rennie, and then we will come back to you, Michael.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Early Learning and Childcare: 1,140 Hours

Meeting date: 25 May 2022

Stephen Kerr

I am not asking how we are going to measure outcomes; I am asking which body is doing it. Who is going to do the work of collating that information to measure those outcomes?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Early Learning and Childcare: 1,140 Hours

Meeting date: 25 May 2022

Stephen Kerr

Michael Marra has a secondary line of questioning.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Early Learning and Childcare: 1,140 Hours

Meeting date: 25 May 2022

Stephen Kerr

I am just going on what Matthew Sweeney has said, with a great deal of transparency, about what everyone knew was going to happen, which is exactly what is happening.

At this point, I will bring in Bob Doris and then ask one last question.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Early Learning and Childcare: 1,140 Hours

Meeting date: 25 May 2022

Stephen Kerr

Are you now giving evidence, or are you asking a question?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Early Learning and Childcare: 1,140 Hours

Meeting date: 25 May 2022

Stephen Kerr

Good morning, and welcome to the 15th meeting in 2022 of the Education, Children and Young People Committee. The first item on our agenda is a one-off evidence session on the implementation of the policy to provide 1,140 hours of early learning and childcare.

I welcome Matthew Sweeney, policy manager for children and young people at the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities; Jane Brumpton, chief executive of Early Years Scotland; Adam Hall, programme manager for the recovery and delivery programme at the Improvement Service; Jonathan Broadbery, head of policy and communications at the National Day Nurseries Association; and Graeme McAlister, chief executive of the Scottish Childminding Association. All our panelists are joining us remotely for various reasons, most of which have to do with transport.

We have five panellists, so please do not feel that you all have to answer every question. When you want to say something, we want to hear from you. If you indicate in the chat box that you want to comment, we will make sure that you get in, but do not feel obliged to answer every question. I hope that that is helpful. My colleagues will direct their questions to one of you in the first instance so that we can keep things moving smoothly. It is not the same as being in the room, but we will try to replicate that as far as possible.

My first question is for Matthew Sweeney. What has worked well in the expansion of childcare hours?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Early Learning and Childcare: 1,140 Hours

Meeting date: 25 May 2022

Stephen Kerr

Jonathan Broadbery, can we hear your take on that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Early Learning and Childcare: 1,140 Hours

Meeting date: 25 May 2022

Stephen Kerr

It is very useful to hear that. Our next question is from Kaukab Stewart.