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That is very difficult for politicians, too.

Cameron-Wong gave a brilliant answer to the initial question about human rights, and I want to ask him about the commissioner’s latest report, in which some alarming concerns were raised around child protection and safeguarding. Would the bill enhance the commission’s concerns about those issues?

A lot of that comes down to having trained people on the ground, which goes back to Jackie Irvine’s point. Early preventative intervention is often about being able to read a situation and knowing what to do next.

I am having a very interesting conversation with Claire and am grateful to her.

That is a precursor to the further consultation.

It might be quite brief, because of the recurring theme of a lack of evidence and detail. I would like to get witnesses’ views on what the possible impact would be of separating children’s services from the current integration at a local authority level. What is the potential impact on children?

Would the local working, innovative solutions, originality and creativity that are required to deal with tailored solutions for children’s needs be undermined in any way by the imposition of a national agency?

As it stands, what does the bill do to fix something that is broken in what operates currently in children’s services? I hope that that question makes sense. Perhaps Jackie Irvine could go first.

So, your answer is basically, “It depends.”

Is there a way in which that could be done other than by including children’s services in the bill?