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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 26 April 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Stephen Kerr

What is the follow up?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Stephen Kerr

You acknowledged that we have some extremely talented and capable people, but they are not well paid at all.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Stephen Kerr

I think that I heard Laura Meikle say how broad the definitions that we are using in Scotland are, and then I heard Fran Foreman say that the benefits of additional support are becoming more widely known. I think that I heard Laura Caven say that, at different points in the learner journey, nearly everyone will require additional support. She is nodding her head in agreement.

My question is very simple. Perhaps for the benefit of those who will read or watch these proceedings, will you say how someone becomes designated as being eligible for support? Do they pretty much self-identify? Is it done through parents, carers or teachers?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Stephen Kerr

Going back to Ben Macpherson’s question about resources, I note that there has been a steady increase in the numbers pre and post pandemic to the point where between 34 and 35 per cent of pupils are designated as having additional support needs. Has the level of resource in terms of speech therapists and pupil support assistants increased in line with that upward movement in the proportion of Scottish pupils who are designated as having additional support needs?

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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Stephen Kerr

Has it increased in line with the increase in numbers?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Stephen Kerr

Scott, do you know the numbers for PSAs and speech therapists?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Stephen Kerr

Do we not have them?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Stephen Kerr

If the witnesses do not have the numbers, can they provide the committee with the data after the meeting?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Stephen Kerr

Sorry. Okay.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Stephen Kerr

Yes, that is a great pity. I am a bit confused as to why it would have such a remit but pay would not be included.

I will move on. How many vacancies for speech therapists are there currently?