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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 2 October 2025
Stephen Kerr
Okay. Douglas Alexander, the Secretary of State for Scotland, said that he was out with Ian Murray, driving about during a by-election campaign, and Ian got out of the car to find somewhere to talk on the phone to—I think—Kate Forbes. That is fine. We want to have a cordiality in the informalities of intergovernmental working, but that is not enough to sustain a modern state at all.
You say that we could have a statute that says that a certain council or other will meet four times a year. I do not see why we should not have clear train tracks that tell us when the next meeting of the council of the nations and regions will be. Does anyone know? No—it is just ad hocery gone crazy. We need to have some idea about what these structures are and the process needs to be open.
You are right about photo ops and John Swinney shaking hands with Keir Starmer and all the rest of it, but that adds nothing to the ability of the Scottish Parliament to scrutinise what the Scottish Government is up to in those meetings, because we do not know.
That is a rant, sorry. I find the situation frustrating, given that we all agree this does not work well and we need to do something different.
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 2 October 2025
Stephen Kerr
We would not even know there had been a meeting without a communique.
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 2 October 2025
Stephen Kerr
This group will not have a lot to do, because the meetings are irregular.
09:45Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 2 October 2025
Stephen Kerr
You take my point, though.
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 2 October 2025
Stephen Kerr
You would like more transparency.
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 2 October 2025
Stephen Kerr
The point that David Thomson is making is pertinent to the whole issue of common frameworks. Common frameworks have almost a mythological dimension. You cannot have common frameworks if you do not have structures that sustain them.
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 2 October 2025
Stephen Kerr
Do you think that it could come as soon as that?
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 2 October 2025
Stephen Kerr
What about the volume?
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 2 October 2025
Stephen Kerr
What about democratic accountability? We are going to be be faced with a flood of regulations—I think that we are agreed that the volume will be huge—and we cannot reject any of them. The scrutiny of them is probably going to be rubber-stamping. Does that not undermine the very basis of the Parliament? We talk a lot about democratic deficits—at least, some of us do—and that would be a huge democratic deficit, would it not?
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 2 October 2025
Stephen Kerr
That is genuinely an academic point, is it not?