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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 3 April 2025
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Stephen Kerr

I would like Angus Robertson to write to explain why the Scottish Government has done nothing.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Stephen Kerr

You have not—you have just gone on to a politically inspired description. I would really like to know how the Welsh Government, with a much smaller budget and a smaller population, can commit £65 million to Taith, which has involved 15,000 young people from Wales participating in exchanges and 10,000 international participants coming to Wales, while the Scottish Government has spent a grand total of £2 million in two years, which is £1 million a year, and to focus on what? We do not even know how many young people have been involved with SEEP. Why has the Scottish Government not even bothered at all? Angus Robertson passionately believes in youth mobility.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Stephen Kerr

They have.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Stephen Kerr

That is very generous of you, convener. It is an unexpected opportunity. This question requires only a yes or no answer, which will please the cabinet secretary. Does he welcome the UK youth mobility visa, as it stands, being extended to all EU nations as a step towards improving the youth mobility that he spoke about?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Stephen Kerr

It already exists and operates on a bilateral basis with a number of countries.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Stephen Kerr

We have looked at one of the issues that you mentioned, which is mutual recognition of qualifications. We have had interesting evidence from a number of people—I have no doubt that they are experts in their fields—including Professor Catherine Barnard of the University of Cambridge. From my professional experience, I can vouch that what she told us is true. She said that

“even when we were in the EU, the mutual recognition provisions did not work terribly well, because there is a lot of vested interest in each state to ensure that its people get the jobs and professions and that those are not very open to other people. The legal profession is a good example of that.”—[Official Report, Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee, 21 November 2024; c 16.]

We have that problem even in the UK, because of the different jurisdictions in Scotland and England.

I agree with the cabinet secretary that we want to smooth out any rough edges of free trade, and I am all for free trade, as he well knows. Does he accept that the issue was a problem before the UK left the EU and that, regardless of whether we are in the EU, a lot of work therefore needs to be done to push forward bilateral recognition of professional qualifications?

We were given the example of architects. Architects in the United Kingdom and those in the European Union agreed that they would accept each other’s qualifications, which is fair and good, and then the European Union said no.

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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Stephen Kerr

Where to begin? Can we, first of all, ascertain the view of not just the cabinet secretary, but perhaps especially of Dr Frank Möschler, who I think is in Brussels? Has the Windsor framework agreement made a difference to the tone of the way that things are happening between the UK Government and the European Union in Brussels, in particular the institutions in Brussels?

I had the opportunity to visit one of our world-class research centres in Scotland this week, and I was heartened to hear from it that, since the Windsor framework agreement, there has been an almost complete change of atmosphere around research funding, project lead status and so forth. I ask you to respond first, cabinet secretary, but I would like to hear from Dr Möschler as well.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 13 March 2025

Stephen Kerr

It sounds as though it is a bit of a nightmare for touring artists to go just about anywhere at the moment. That is my conclusion from what you have all said, which has been pretty comprehensive.

I turn back to Lisa Whytock, who started off by giving a really full picture of the evidence. Do artists qualify for any form of export support other than the fund that you mentioned that the UK Government offered, which you said that you thought was biased towards London-based artists? Are there any other forms of export support?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 13 March 2025

Stephen Kerr

In your paper, you say something very interesting, which is kind of tangential to what we are talking about, about the word “reset”. We have been using that word a lot—in fact, the UK Labour Government has been using it as well—and it obviously carries a lot of heavy meaning. However, you clearly say:

“The term ‘reset’ is ill-defined and widely rejected in EU circles.”

Do talk a bit more about that.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 13 March 2025

Stephen Kerr

Okay, that is very interesting.

You said that the UK had a role to play in the emergence of some kind of regulatory framework around the application of AI, or perhaps—to follow Patrick Harvie’s line of reasoning—in how people interact with it and utilise it. What role does the UK play in that? We are between the United States, which has one dominant philosophy in almost every area of human activity, and the EU, which is at the other end of the scale. Where does the UK fit in and what is the role that you described?