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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee
Meeting date: 4 December 2025
Stephen Kerr
You are quite happy with 23 members, then. I thought that I would hear some great plan about how we would increase the membership to at least the number of member states of the European Union.
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee
Meeting date: 4 December 2025
Stephen Kerr
What brought about the situation where you observed—at least, it is mentioned—a lack of effective challenge at board level?
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee
Meeting date: 4 December 2025
Stephen Kerr
It is all things to all people.
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee
Meeting date: 4 December 2025
Stephen Kerr
Do you mean that it was in relation to specific funding awards?
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee
Meeting date: 4 December 2025
Stephen Kerr
Yes, I just wanted to say to John Devine, in Ottawa, that three things have impressed me out of the things that you have said. The first thing is that you obviously have a very long and distinguished diplomatic career, which I totally respect. The second thing is that you got out of bed at some unearthly hour to appear before the committee, which is highly commendable—or maybe not. The third thing, which I think is very important, is that you talked about the integrated working that you enjoy with the representatives of the United Kingdom in the high commission and elsewhere in Canada. I just wondered whether you would give us a concrete example of where that working together produced a win for Scotland.
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee
Meeting date: 4 December 2025
Stephen Kerr
Thank you for that. I have a question for Nick Leake, given all the talk about roundabouts and all the rest of it. The friends of Scotland group is mentioned specifically, and I was a little intrigued—I am making a serious point here. I know that you are quite new in Brussels—I think that you crossed the street less than a year or two years ago.
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee
Meeting date: 4 December 2025
Stephen Kerr
Thank you.
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee
Meeting date: 4 December 2025
Stephen Kerr
It sounds as though you are describing an organisation that lacks any kind of strategy.
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee
Meeting date: 4 December 2025
Stephen Kerr
Why was there a gap? You note that there is a lot of evidence of information gathering, but not a lot of use of information so there is data gathering as opposed to data leading to informed decision making or a clear strategy—given that what you have described is a broad strategy. There was all this information. It could be information, although at the moment it is just a pile of data. Why was the board almost blind, at times? One of the comments was that the board did not always receive the information and that it needed to scrutinise direction of performance. How did that gap arise?
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee
Meeting date: 4 December 2025
Stephen Kerr
I have a couple of final points, which pick up from Jamie Halcro Johnston’s comments about the relationship between Creative Scotland and the cabinet secretary and his office. Some of the commentary around the report mentions that stakeholders raised concerns that the Scottish Government took little interest in Creative Scotland’s governance and did so only latterly when problems became too visible to ignore. Is that a fair comment?
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