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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 16 January 2026
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Historic Environment Scotland

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Stephen Kerr

Given the fact that HES clearly is an organisation in deep trouble and having the equivalent of a nervous breakdown, there needs to be an external intervention. Would it not be better if an independent investigation were to be appointed?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Historic Environment Scotland

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Stephen Kerr

These issues have been hanging over Historic Environment Scotland for a very long time, and there does not seem to have been any action to address the concerns. There is a catalogue of concerns. While some of those concerns are in the public domain, some of them are not, but some members of the committee have become privy to them through whistleblowers.

I am deeply concerned about the lack of an urgent approach to tackling the culture issues inside HES. I am not sure that it is fair to expect Audit Scotland to be the independent investigator on those matters, although you rightly highlight that that is one of the points that are mentioned in the section 22 report remit. I put it to you, Sir Mark, as the new broom, that something more fundamental needs to be done.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Sporting Events of National Interest

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Stephen Kerr

Would UEFA see it as a threat if the SFA, the FA, the Irish FA, and the Welsh FA all got together? Would that be seen as an attempt to compete?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Historic Environment Scotland

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Stephen Kerr

That is given that you are a non-executive chairman. Would it not be more helpful if the cabinet secretary were to be more proactive in supporting you by sending in a truly independent person or a couple of people to conduct an inquiry into what has happened inside HES and what needs to be done to put right the organisation? Given that you have one or two days a week, surely too much is being expected of you as a non-executive chairman.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Historic Environment Scotland

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Stephen Kerr

However, Stephen Boyle says in his letter that you were operating without an accountable officer. He is correct, is he not? That is one of the bases for the section 22 report.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Sporting Events of National Interest

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Stephen Kerr

Have you ever done a calculation of the number of viewers being excluded because of the current arrangements, as opposed to matches being free to air? There will be a particular group that is unable to watch if—

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Sporting Events of National Interest

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Stephen Kerr

Does that present some commercial challenges down the line, even in terms of subscription channels selling football?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Historic Environment Scotland

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Stephen Kerr

That is why I am asking.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Historic Environment Scotland

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Stephen Kerr

The papers that we were given in advance of this committee reveal some extraordinary things that were not previously in the public domain. For example, it is revealed that on 2 June 2025, a set of documentation entitled, in our papers, “HES Corruption”—numbered volume 1 and so forth—was circulated to ministers, the board and Audit Scotland. Another set of these “HES Corruption” volumes was circulated as recently as last month. In June, the Scottish Government asked the board to investigate the allegations. Did that investigation happen to your knowledge?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Historic Environment Scotland

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Stephen Kerr

When did it start?