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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 12 February 2026
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 5 February 2026

Stephen Kerr

Okay.

Moving on, the transparency issue that Jamie Halcro Johnston raised is well covered in the review—there is a lot of commentary about the lack of transparency. Can I ask you about the issue of transparency, consistency and fairness around funding decisions, which is on page 42 of the review? The review is very specific in its criticisms of the lack of transparency. You have had the report for a while. What concrete changes will you be making to funding decisions, of which there has been a lot of discussion in front of the committee? What specific changes will you make to meet the need for greater transparency, consistency and fairness of funding decisions?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 5 February 2026

Stephen Kerr

The point that I made about the issues that the review raised about leadership.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 5 February 2026

Stephen Kerr

We will keep a watching brief.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 5 February 2026

Stephen Kerr

I just want to make a point, convener. Given the time and the need for brevity, I will conclude with this. Because of the way that the narratives are written, there was a clear risk, which you acknowledge, cabinet secretary, of the situation being interpreted in the way that I have suggested, in relation to section 40 of the 2010 act. It is the fact that you mentioned that section that led me to ask those questions.

We all know that we are in the business of words, and that the way that we talk and write about things often betrays the way that we think about things. I will leave it at this, but I wanted to test, as I have done, whether the section 40 legal requirement not to give directions has, even subconsciously, been breached in the way that the budget is presented. I hear what the cabinet secretary says, but I want to put this on the record. There is a clear legal responsibility on the cabinet secretary not to get to that level of specificity, but there is a risk of the narrative in the level 4 worksheet leading one to presume that that happened.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 5 February 2026

Stephen Kerr

According to the SPICe briefing, your organisation’s budget for the coming year is going to increase by 26 per cent from the budget that you were allocated a year ago. That is quite an increase. In cash terms, compared with the autumn budget revision figures for the current budget year, it is 13 per cent. How much of the £101 million that you are expected to get is ring fenced?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 5 February 2026

Stephen Kerr

I want you to acknowledge your decisions in relation to that funding. It is a continuation of the cash amount, which has stayed the same since 2008. In fact, it went backwards for a number of years and is now catching up, almost, with 2008. I know that you take a lot of interest in world-class cultural output from our country, but your decisions are leading to damage to those esteemed national performing companies.

Before you respond to that comment, can you tell us how much money is in the international touring fund for 2026-27, or has it been closed? I accept that you may need to ask an official.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 5 February 2026

Stephen Kerr

Sorry—£111 million. I keep getting the number wrong.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 5 February 2026

Stephen Kerr

That is okay.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 5 February 2026

Stephen Kerr

The ring-fenced funding is pretty much all accounted for, is it not?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 5 February 2026

Stephen Kerr

But you are aware that that is what it says in the level 4 spreadsheet line. It is quite directional regarding spending?