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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 April 2025
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 16 January 2025

Stephen Kerr

Cabinet secretary, my job here as a member of this Parliament is to scrutinise the work of the Government, and I am reading to you from the Official Report of our previous meeting, when something was said to have been excluded from the review. Is that incorrect? I think that you are saying that Robert Wilson is wrong.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 16 January 2025

Stephen Kerr

No, no.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 16 January 2025

Stephen Kerr

Absolutely.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 16 January 2025

Stephen Kerr

No, no.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 16 January 2025

Stephen Kerr

I am talking about it.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 16 January 2025

Stephen Kerr

It is absolutely true that the TCA is unique. It is one of a kind for the European Union—there is no doubt about it. The fact is, though, that there is a changing dynamic in world trade. The European Union is losing share to the rest of the world, and British business—being pretty nimble, to be frank; it has managed to negotiate some particularly difficult political and economic minefields, not just in recent years but over the longer term—will go to where the opportunities are. The committee has heard in evidence that the United States is a market where British businesspeople are doing rather well, specifically in the service sector.

There is a change of heart in the European Union towards the overregulation of the EU market, is there not? I am thinking of Mario Draghi and the comments from Emmanuel Macron. I am looking at Arianna Andreangeli as I say that, because I know that her expertise is in the European Union. When we talk about a reset of Britain’s relationship with the European Union, is there not also a reset happening in the European Union in terms of its attitude towards trade?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 16 January 2025

Stephen Kerr

The UK has not changed its view of veterinary qualifications, has it? If you are a European vet, you can still come to the UK and get a job, and your qualifications are accepted as totally valid.

Many people believe—I am probably one of them—that the problem with the EU is that it often acts in a very protectionist way. That has fuelled a perception, and whether it is real or just a perception, it is certainly the perception that Donald Trump has of the actions of the European Union. A lot of the issues that we are discussing today are ultimately political. For example, the issue of trade between the US and the EU is framed by how Donald Trump sees Europe’s commitment to properly contribute towards its defence. He sees trade in the context of European weakness when it comes to dealing with Russia and China. He sees these things in that geopolitical context, first and foremost, and he is ultimately transactional. Yes?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 16 January 2025

Stephen Kerr

I have loads of questions.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 16 January 2025

Stephen Kerr

But businesses manage all of that.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 16 January 2025

Stephen Kerr

Pragmatism suggests that all aspects of that relationship—political, commercial, general economic and free trade—can be managed and that declarations of loyalty do not have to be made to one side or the other. You can just do what is in your best interests. In other words, if we have America first and the EU first, which is the attitude that has been described in the evidence, can we not also have a Britain first approach and do what is in the best interests of this country?