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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 22 January 2026
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Scotland’s International Strategy (Annual Report)

Meeting date: 4 December 2025

Stephen Kerr

It is early days. I just wonder what your thoughts and plans are. I believe that the influence of diplomatic efforts, particularly in the creation of the friends of Scotland group, is important. However, the friends of Scotland group in the European Parliament has only 23 members out of 720 MEPs. That is not even one per member state of the European Union. Maybe you can tell us what you will do to change that, so that we can have more friends of Scotland in the friends of Scotland group.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Independent Review of Creative Scotland

Meeting date: 4 December 2025

Stephen Kerr

It appears to keep coming back to leadership; my conclusion from your report and from your evidence this morning is that there has been a lack of leadership from the board. I am happy to be challenged on that because one of the other comments that is in the report is about a defensive culture in the organisation. A number of stakeholders commented on that. Was that what you discovered? Was there a defensive mentality? Was there an unwillingness to address weaknesses?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Independent Review of Creative Scotland

Meeting date: 4 December 2025

Stephen Kerr

So this is ring-fenced sums of money?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Independent Review of Creative Scotland

Meeting date: 4 December 2025

Stephen Kerr

We are back to leadership and strategy again.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Scotland’s International Strategy (Annual Report)

Meeting date: 4 December 2025

Stephen Kerr

We want to be bigger, though—right?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Scotland’s International Strategy (Annual Report)

Meeting date: 4 December 2025

Stephen Kerr

You are quite happy with 23 members, then. I thought that I would hear some great plan about how we would increase the membership to at least the number of member states of the European Union.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Stephen Kerr

Would Pam Duncan-Glancy agree that part of the way to tackle the country’s health challenges, as well as the child poverty that John Mason mentions, is by investing in the people of Scotland through skills, education and training—the very things that are supposed to be the focus of the bill?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Stephen Kerr

I heard very clearly what the minister said. I simply add in relation to amendment 141 that, if the Scottish Government is asking the Funding Council to take on an expanded and more complex role, the council should operate under a clear and disciplined statutory framework of the kind that a number of amendments in this group have spelled out. Nevertheless, I look forward to further engagement with the minister in relation to the reporting criteria. I will not be moving amendment 141.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Stephen Kerr

On amendment 17, I noted subsection (6), in particular, which talks about “socio-economic groups” that are “under-represented” and so on. Interestingly, no part of that amendment—and particularly not that part—mentions apprenticeships. Is the minister not concerned that there might be underrepresented socioeconomic groups that are unable to access apprenticeships?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Stephen Kerr

My amendments 146 to 149 in this group seek to deal with how the Scottish Funding Council will exercise the significant and expanded functions that the bill will confer on it. I have lodged the amendments because, as the bill currently stands, the framework for exercising those functions lacks essential safeguards, clarity and discipline. Without those amendments, the council would be asked to shoulder major new responsibilities without the statutory requirements that are necessary to ensure transparency, consistency and a focus on Scotland’s long-term interests.

Amendment 146 seeks to ensure that, when the council exercises its functions, it does so in a way that is aligned with Scotland’s economic needs. My party has consistently argued that the tertiary system should be one of the central drivers of national productivity and national competitiveness. However, although legislation requires the council

“to have regard to ... skills needs in Scotland”,

I believe that that requirement is too broad and allows for crucial factors to be overlooked.

Amendment 146 seeks to correct that by requiring the Funding Council to have explicit regard to Scotland’s employer demand, labour market shortages, skills needs and, crucially, future economic priorities at national and regional levels. Legislating to match support to employer demand will reduce, as far as possible, the funding of low-value courses that do not correspond to employer demand and which result in young people being stuck either in unemployment or in jobs that do not match their skill sets.

I believe that legally mandating that the council have regard to our labour market shortages will force the council to prioritise addressing crucial reoccurring gaps in our national workforce and to prioritise emerging sectors, such as artificial intelligence, to ensure that Scotland is at the forefront of emerging sectors. It is also crucial to mandate that economic priorities at both national and regional levels be considered, as that will ensure that the distinct skills needs in every part of Scotland are not overlooked by a centralised body in Edinburgh.

The amendment would ensure that the council’s work was not simply administrative but strategic, purposeful and grounded in the realities of the economy that it is meant to serve in the present and in the future.