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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 April 2025
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 23 January 2025

Stephen Kerr

So we could have an agreement, but the EU said no.

The mutual recognition of qualifications is a difficult issue, because even within the United Kingdom, there are professions in Scotland that are proudly independent of their professional status but which are not recognised in England, and there are those in England that are not recognised in Scotland. This is, therefore, not a new phenomenon; it is something that we currently live with and, truth be told, have probably lived with for hundreds of years.

This will be my final question, convener. You mentioned the review and the reset, but what is the appetite in that respect? I believe, Pascal, that you serve as a lawyer in the Commission and that you operate within that framework.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 23 January 2025

Stephen Kerr

What is the likelihood of any kind of major reset happening? What is the appetite in the European Union for it? After all, what we read and hear in the UK is that the EU has a bit of a shopping list before it will be prepared to consider any of the Labour Government’s requests for, say, sanitary agreements and things like that—food and drink agreements, as our cabinet secretary prefers to call them. For example, it would want all kinds of access to fishing grounds, youth mobility and so on. Has, as Alexander Stewart has suggested, a certain pragmatism been born out of the recent results of the European parliamentary elections? Is it looking to be pragmatic about these things and perhaps less adversarial in its dealings with the UK?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

BBC Annual Report

Meeting date: 23 January 2025

Stephen Kerr

But why is there no “Today in Parliament”?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

BBC Annual Report

Meeting date: 23 January 2025

Stephen Kerr

If you are going to create what you just described in outline, in terms of how people pay for the television that they get from the BBC, for example, are you not going to have to have more flexibility in how you operate under the charter? Will you not have to have more of a free hand from Ofcom? At the moment, the BBC has even struggled—

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 23 January 2025

Stephen Kerr

So, clearly, as you said, the TCA seems to be working rather well, does it not?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 23 January 2025

Stephen Kerr

Given the frankness with which you have been presenting your evidence, can you tell us how many small architects—[Interruption.] I am sorry—not architects. We will come back to them. How many small accountants firms in Scotland, or in any region of the European Union, are likely to be in that situation? I see that you are shaking your head.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 23 January 2025

Stephen Kerr

Indeed.

I just wanted to clarify your point about architects. The architects in the EU and the UK came to an agreement, if I understand correctly what you have said, but, just for clarity, is it not correct that that agreement between the architects as a profession was rejected as valid by the European Commission?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 23 January 2025

Stephen Kerr

That is not normal in business, from my experience. You do not normally go and get cash in your pocket; you get paid by invoice. Is that a real issue?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 23 January 2025

Stephen Kerr

In effect, you are raising a potential issue rather than a real issue, because there has been no divergence. It is fair to say that what you have just said is very accurate, in that the political temperature in Westminster now means that it is very unlikely that the Government would be brave enough to seek divergence on that issue, or perhaps any other issue, to be frank. It is good to know that the bottom line is that you do not foresee any difficulty. Is that right?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 23 January 2025

Stephen Kerr

That is helpful. I do not know whether Christophe Lam has anything to add, but it seems pretty clear cut from our discussion that this is not going to be an issue at all and that data flows will continue after 27 June.

Christophe, did you want to say something? I have interrupted.