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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 4 April 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 22 September 2021

Stephen Kerr

We have a number of questions about the communications dimension, which we really want to understand more about.

Audrey, do you want to come in?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 22 September 2021

Stephen Kerr

Did you catch the whole question?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 22 September 2021

Stephen Kerr

We are going to have evidence later from the NASUWT—I have to get these acronyms right. It talks a lot about the “compression” that you have been describing in terms of assessment, how difficult it was—“impossible”, it says—for teachers to complete all the work that they were asked to do, including the quality assurance and certification, and about the effect that that had on the teachers. I am sure that you are conscious of that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 22 September 2021

Stephen Kerr

Welcome back. We will hear further evidence on the alternative certification model from our second panel of witnesses. I welcome Larry Flanagan, general secretary of the Educational Institute of Scotland; Seamus Searson, general secretary of the Scottish Secondary Teachers Association; and Tara Lillis, national official for Scotland at the NASUWT.

Thank you for providing us with your written submissions, which are very interesting and useful. We have a lot of ground to cover and not as much time as we would like, so we will move straight to questions unless any of you has something short and specific that you would like to say first. I see that you are all happy to move straight to questions.

Larry, you state on page 3 of your written submission that

“the Scottish Government or the SQA ... were determined to push ahead with national sampling of all courses”.

Did you ask for a rationale or a justification at the time for the Government’s determination to push on with that? If so, what did it say to you?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 22 September 2021

Stephen Kerr

In your submission, you mention a number of times that you believe that there was a hugely political dimension. On page 3, you mention the awareness of the forthcoming Scottish Parliament elections. How much of the decision making in the process was driven, in your view, by a political agenda from the Scottish Government?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 22 September 2021

Stephen Kerr

There were a lot of noises off, as you call them, in political terms. Education is a huge issue in Scotland. It is a priority in people’s lives, and that is a jolly good thing. However, the Government was clearly in the driving seat and making the decisions.

There are many questions that I could ask, but I will put just one more question to you, because I want to bring my colleagues in. On the sampling issue, you make in your submission the rather incendiary comment that

“the EIS’s trust in teacher judgement was not matched by that of the Scottish Government”.

On what basis do you say that?

11:15  

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 22 September 2021

Stephen Kerr

The point that I am trying to make is that you are saying something fairly damning about the Scottish Government’s trust and belief in teachers.

Before I bring in Kaukab Stewart, the deputy convener, I have a question for Tara Lillis on a subject that we touched on with the previous panel. Tara, you mention in your submission the concept of overassessment and the compression that went on in the assessments this year. Have you or any of your members sought to define that? If so, what conclusions have you reached?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development Report

Meeting date: 8 September 2021

Stephen Kerr

I am sorry to interrupt—I do not wish to be rude—but I had better bring in my colleagues shortly. Is it fair to say that there were changes between the draft and the final report?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 September 2021

Stephen Kerr

Under the next item, the committee must consider another piece of subordinate legislation. The regulations are being considered under the negative procedure.

As members have no comments to make on the regulations, are we agreed that the committee does not wish to make any recommendations in relation to the instrument?

Members indicated agreement.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development Report

Meeting date: 8 September 2021

Stephen Kerr

Fair enough.