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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 5 July 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Skills: Alignment with Business Needs

Meeting date: 8 December 2021

Stephen Kerr

You produced the Logan review and you are an authority on the matter. The review suggested that computing science is a boring subject and that the syllabus is not exciting. You said that the teachers tend to be generalists and that there is therefore, in effect—I will use a term that might be objectionable to some people; I am willing to be corrected—a dumbing down in computing science, so that it is less about the more exciting aspects of the subject that require specialist knowledge, and is much more about the general. How do we fix that? What can we do differently?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 December 2021

Stephen Kerr

It is separate from the regulations that we are considering.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 December 2021

Stephen Kerr

Fergus Ewing wants to come in, to be followed by Stephanie Gallacher. I am sorry—I mean Stephanie Callaghan. I am mixing up my Gallachers and my Callaghans.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Skills: Alignment with Business Needs

Meeting date: 8 December 2021

Stephen Kerr

That would be helpful, because we want to do everything that we can to help and encourage in this area. Girls need to have role models, so you are right to focus on it.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Skills: Alignment with Business Needs

Meeting date: 8 December 2021

Stephen Kerr

That was a sobering comment on which to end our session, which has been excellent. All of the witnesses have brought a lot to it, and I wish that we could have had longer with you. I hope that we can have you all back again, especially to talk about entrepreneurship in this context, because that was highlighted by the Logan review and it deserves further scrutiny by us.

I thank Professor Mark Logan, Dr Natalie Coull, Karen Meechan and Nicola Taylor for joining us this morning. Your time has been very valuable from your point of view and it has been very well used from our point of view, so thank you for being with us.

The public part of the meeting is now at an end.

12:05 Meeting continued in private until 12:28.  

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Skills: Alignment with Business Needs

Meeting date: 8 December 2021

Stephen Kerr

We can; that is much clearer. Kaukab, would you like to resume your questioning?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Skills: Alignment with Business Needs

Meeting date: 8 December 2021

Stephen Kerr

Stephanie, are you content to leave it there?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 December 2021

Stephen Kerr

I say to Fergus Ewing that it is not fair to accuse a colleague of fearmongering if they have genuine concerns about the increased risk that a change in legislation might create, even for one person who might then reoffend with disastrous results for the lives of others. It is rather unfair to accuse colleagues of that on the basis of legislative scrutiny.

I call the minister, who is only too ready to respond to the points that have been made.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 December 2021

Stephen Kerr

As we are in a hybrid meeting, I invite members who are attending virtually to vote via the chat function. Members who are in the committee room can vote by raising their hand. Please keep your hand raised while the clerks record your vote.

For

Gallacher, Meghan (Central Scotland) (Con)
Kerr, Stephen (Central Scotland) (Con)

Against

Callaghan, Stephanie (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP)
Doris, Bob (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP)
Dornan, James (Glasgow Cathcart) (SNP)
Ewing, Fergus (Inverness and Nairn) (SNP)
Greer, Ross (West Scotland) (Green)
Marra, Michael (North East Scotland) (Lab)
Stewart, Kaukab (Glasgow Kelvin) (SNP)

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 December 2021

Stephen Kerr

The result of the division is: For 2, Against 7, Abstentions 0.

Motion disagreed to.