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Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 14 June 2023
Stephen Kerr
Fair enough.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 14 June 2023
Stephen Kerr
That is not how the teachers feel.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 14 June 2023
Stephen Kerr
Consequences?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 14 June 2023
Stephen Kerr
A whole bunch of stuff was raised in the opening comments, so it is tempting to go in 100 different directions to follow up the things that have been said. There are things that are easy to agree with because they are lovely principles, and then there is the reality. Here, we have the meeting of two things—nice words and lovely ideas, and then the reality of what many teachers are telling us is their daily experience in some of Scotland’s schools and classrooms.
I think that Carrie Lindsay hit the nail on the head. We do not actually know exactly what is happening in our classrooms, because there is such variation in reporting. We need at least to agree that there needs to be a common standard across Scotland for situations that arise in classrooms or schools to end up being reportable. At the moment, we are reduced to using anecdotal evidence in a lot of these discussions. I have certainly been told by quite a few teachers that they are positively discouraged from reporting some of the things that happen in their classrooms. They are told not to make a fuss about them even though, in some cases, people have been off work or even hospitalised.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 14 June 2023
Stephen Kerr
But you are not against consequences for the sort of behaviour that we are discussing.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 14 June 2023
Stephen Kerr
That is a little bit extreme.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 14 June 2023
Stephen Kerr
Good.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 14 June 2023
Stephen Kerr
I think that your causation and linkage is—
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 14 June 2023
Stephen Kerr
But it is very extreme to say that we should not have any exclusions, because—
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 14 June 2023
Stephen Kerr
Yes.