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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 24 February 2026
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Correspondence (Graeme Dey MSP)

Meeting date: 15 June 2023

Stephen Kerr

On the back of that comment from Emma Harper, I go back to my principle, which is that members need to be free to lodge the motions that they feel are appropriate. If there is a problem with the chamber desk team—I am not sure that there is—we would have to rectify that from the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body or Parliamentary Bureau angle because, again, I think that members need to be free to do what they think is right and in the interests of their constituents. We have made the case that those motions, however other people might judge them, are very valuable for communities, organisations and individuals. To somehow have that censored, restricted or cancelled would be wholly inappropriate.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Violence in Schools

Meeting date: 14 June 2023

Stephen Kerr

Fair enough.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Violence in Schools

Meeting date: 14 June 2023

Stephen Kerr

That is not how the teachers feel.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Violence in Schools

Meeting date: 14 June 2023

Stephen Kerr

Consequences?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Violence in Schools

Meeting date: 14 June 2023

Stephen Kerr

A whole bunch of stuff was raised in the opening comments, so it is tempting to go in 100 different directions to follow up the things that have been said. There are things that are easy to agree with because they are lovely principles, and then there is the reality. Here, we have the meeting of two things—nice words and lovely ideas, and then the reality of what many teachers are telling us is their daily experience in some of Scotland’s schools and classrooms.

I think that Carrie Lindsay hit the nail on the head. We do not actually know exactly what is happening in our classrooms, because there is such variation in reporting. We need at least to agree that there needs to be a common standard across Scotland for situations that arise in classrooms or schools to end up being reportable. At the moment, we are reduced to using anecdotal evidence in a lot of these discussions. I have certainly been told by quite a few teachers that they are positively discouraged from reporting some of the things that happen in their classrooms. They are told not to make a fuss about them even though, in some cases, people have been off work or even hospitalised.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Violence in Schools

Meeting date: 14 June 2023

Stephen Kerr

But you are not against consequences for the sort of behaviour that we are discussing.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Violence in Schools

Meeting date: 14 June 2023

Stephen Kerr

That is a little bit extreme.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Violence in Schools

Meeting date: 14 June 2023

Stephen Kerr

Good.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Violence in Schools

Meeting date: 14 June 2023

Stephen Kerr

I think that your causation and linkage is—

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Violence in Schools

Meeting date: 14 June 2023

Stephen Kerr

But it is very extreme to say that we should not have any exclusions, because—