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Good morning, and welcome to the third meeting of the Education, Children and Young People Committee. This morning, we are meeting in hybrid format and will hear further evidence on the alternative certification model. I have received apologies from James Dornan.

Agenda item 1 is a decision on whether to take agenda item 4 in private. Do members agree to take item 4 in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Sorry, Bob, but I think that there is something wrong with your sound. It sounds as though you are very far away.

I am told that it is all right on the broadcast and that everyone in the room can hear you well enough. Please carry on.

I have no doubt that, despite your best efforts, some young people were left behind.

With regard to your comment about the teachers’ experience being reflected in the experience of the young people, one of the schools that we spoke to last week highlighted the need for fun to be put back into learning. I think that that is an expression of what you have just been talking about.

It is interesting that the OECD called on us to restate and re-evaluate our vision of curriculum for excellence, which, in essence, is what you have just both said. Ross Greer has a supplementary question on this.

There was a broadband blip at the start of the question. Could you repeat the first 15 seconds or so?

Just.

Thank you, Kaukab.

Thank you, Bob. Kaukab Stewart has a final question.

Absolutely.