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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee
Meeting date: 21 November 2024
Stephen Kerr
Law is the biggest issue.
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee
Meeting date: 21 November 2024
Stephen Kerr
On the principle of divergence, you are a pragmatist.
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee
Meeting date: 21 November 2024
Stephen Kerr
You do not need to do that. I just need to hear that what you said earlier is the Government’s position. Divergence will be pursued when anything that you previously signed up to, which you do not know about—the unknown unknowns—comes in our direction if it is not in Scotland’s best interests. The Government will not move in lockstep with that EU directive.
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee
Meeting date: 21 November 2024
Stephen Kerr
I am not asking for more information. I am making the point about the sift and the wave upon wave of directives that come from the European Union. When you were a member of the European Scrutiny Committee, cabinet secretary, those were automatically admitted into UK law. No resistance was possible—you had to agree to the directives. We do not have that now. That is why I am focusing on your pragmatism, which I applaud. I hope that you will take my compliment that you are being pragmatic in accepting that there is a need for divergence.
I will ask a broader question about the need for us to be in any kind of alignment with the European Union, given the current state of things in Brussels and in Strasbourg. There has been a subtle—actually, not very subtle—change in the dynamics of European politics, particularly on competition policy. The President of the French Republic said that the EU could die and that
“We are on the verge of a very important moment. Our former model is over—we are over-regulating and under-investing.”
He went on to say:
“In the two or three years to come, if we follow our classical agenda”—
he is referring to the regulatory agenda—
“we will be out of the market.”
We have to be very careful about this. The composition of the European Parliament has changed and the nature of the Commission’s remits are changing. There is a move towards deregulation, is there not? Should we not be very careful that we are not swimming in the wrong direction?
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee
Meeting date: 21 November 2024
Stephen Kerr
What is your analysis of the reason for that? How much is being driven by the issues that we are discussing today and how much is being driven by market opportunities for UK service companies?
09:45Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee
Meeting date: 21 November 2024
Stephen Kerr
Let us stick on the area that you have just raised. Mutual recognition of qualifications is an issue. Of the sectors that you have mentioned, which have suffered more because of the loss of mutual recognition of qualifications? Has that mattered? It was highlighted last week in our evidence from the legal profession that qualifications in Scotland are not even recognised in England or vice versa. How much of an impact has this really had?
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee
Meeting date: 21 November 2024
Stephen Kerr
It is not always possible, is it?
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee
Meeting date: 21 November 2024
Stephen Kerr
That is not the point.
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee
Meeting date: 21 November 2024
Stephen Kerr
I would like us to try to get our arms around what we are talking about. We are exclusively talking about services here. The UK is currently the third biggest exporter to the European Union, with 7.1 per cent of the entire EU imports being from the UK. Can someone tell me, as a matter of fact, the split between services and goods of the $193 billion of trade that we do with the EU? I presume that it is predominantly services. Can anyone cast any light on that? Professor Barnard, you are nodding.
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee
Meeting date: 21 November 2024
Stephen Kerr
Those are global figures rather than being specifically on exports to the EU.