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To be fair to Allan Colquhoun, I should bring him back in, because I may have misquoted him. I will let him correct my misinterpretation of his comments.

Loud and clear.

It is a separate issue.

There was a lot in your evidence about the gender imbalance in the sector—or the gender ghettoisation, as Mark Logan referred to it. How many digital critical friends are there and how many of them are women?

That is very kind of you.

Welcome back. We have a rich selection of people on our second panel. I welcome Professor Mark Logan, who is a professor in practice at the school of computing science at the University of Glasgow; Dr Natalie Coull, who is the head of cybersecurity at the school of design and informatics at Abertay University; Karen Meechan, who is the chief executive officer of ScotlandIS; and Nicola Taylor, who is the head of operations and skills at ScotlandIS. Thank you all for your time today. It is very much appreciated.

We will go straight into questioning, which will be led by the deputy convener, Kaukab Stewart.

Can we have an update on Mark Logan’s comms? [Interruption.] He is coming back in. In fact, he has just rejoined us.

Mark, would you like to test your sound?

That would be fabulous. Thank you.

The question is, that motion S6M-02353, in the name of Oliver Mundell, be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members: No.

I thank the minister and officials for their time. We will have a two-minute suspension to allow the witnesses to leave.