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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 April 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Asylum Seekers in Scotland

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Kaukab Stewart

I will bring in Pam Duncan-Glancy.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Asylum Seekers in Scotland

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Kaukab Stewart

We will move on to Karen Adam.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Asylum Seekers in Scotland

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Thank you to the panel members for their opening remarks. As we proceed with our questioning, I will kick us off, and I will be followed by my colleagues, who will come in with their own lines of questioning.

Colleagues, if you wish to come in with a supplementary, please indicate that to me, and I will do my best to bring you in. I also ask colleagues to direct their question at a particular panel member to start us off. If any other panel member wishes to add further information, please indicate that to me and I will bring you in. On that note, we will crack on.

I will come to Andy Sirel first. I am interested in the legislative context of asylum in the UK and how that comes together with Scotland. It would be good for us to get a bigger picture of where we sit with regard to the UK and of the effect of that context on asylum seekers and service providers in the public, private and voluntary sectors.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Convener

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Thank you very much, Maggie and everyone. I am sure that people will bear with me as I take on the role of committee convener for the first time. I also thank Joe FitzPatrick for all the work that he did and wish him well. I look forward to working with everybody.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Asylum Seekers in Scotland

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Thank you very much for that. I have a short time left for my questions. I ask Annika Joy and Phil Arnold whether they would like to add anything. The original question was about the legislative context so, if you want to refer to the Nationality and Borders Act 2022, now is the time to do so. We may be able to come back to it.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Asylum Seekers in Scotland

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Pam Gosal wants to ask a short supplementary question. I am watching the time. I ask folk to keep their questions and answers focused. I am sure that other areas will be covered.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Asylum Seekers in Scotland

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Kaukab Stewart

I will bring in Rachael Hamilton—your line of questioning might work here.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Asylum Seekers in Scotland

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Kaukab Stewart

I thank all our panellists for their very powerful contributions. You have given us lots of food for thought at a very topical time with regard to asylum seeker and refugee status. Of course, there is also this afternoon’s debate in the chamber, and I encourage everyone to tune in and watch that. You might even hear some of your contributions being amplified in that arena. Once again, I thank you all.

That concludes our formal business this morning. I thank everyone for their support at my first meeting as convener.

11:49 Meeting continued in private until 12:12.  

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Asylum Seekers in Scotland

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Agenda item 3 is an evidence-taking session with a panel of stakeholders, whom we will hear from shortly. We are joined by Philip Arnold, head of refugee support for Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, British Red Cross; Annika Joy, programme director, Simon Community Scotland; Graham O’Neill, policy manager, Scottish Refugee Council; and Andy Sirel—I hope that I have pronounced that correctly—legal director and partner, JustRight Scotland. You are all very welcome. I also refer members to papers 1 and 2.

I invite our witnesses to make some short opening remarks of perhaps a couple of minutes each. As members will wish to ask lots of questions so that we can get to the heart of the matter and carry out some deep scrutiny, brevity in any opening remarks would be appreciated.

I will start with Phil Arnold, please.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Asylum Seekers in Scotland

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Thank you. It was worth a try.