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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 April 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Asylum Seekers in Scotland

Meeting date: 2 May 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Thank you. Once again, I welcome everyone. It was interesting to hear the variety of issues that you have mentioned. I hope that my colleagues and I will be able to get further information and delve a bit deeper into those.

I will start. I have a special interest in this whole topic, but I would like to start on the issue of children. Last week, we heard evidence regarding the use of hotels. My colleagues will ask about that more widely, but I want to concentrate on the experience of children in particular. I would like an illustration of what it is like for a child of an asylum seeker. It would be good to hear, on the record, what that experience is like and about the effect on the child, the family, their mental health and their access to services. We have heard that a hotel is being used especially for housing unaccompanied children so, if you have more information on that, it would be important to hear it.

I will start off with Pinar Aksu and then bring in Nick Hobbs. I am sure that Selina Hales will have something to say. For anyone else on the panel, if something is not mentioned, feel free to alert me to that.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Asylum Seekers in Scotland

Meeting date: 2 May 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Thank you. You talked about the spaces. In my constituency, I have personal experience of there being no communal area where mothers can meet up with other mothers with children. How common is it that children do not have any areas where they can get together with other kids? I am, of course, referring to the right to play as well as the right to family time. Are there any remedies for that?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Asylum Seekers in Scotland

Meeting date: 2 May 2023

Kaukab Stewart

As long as it is very short, because I want to move on.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Asylum Seekers in Scotland

Meeting date: 2 May 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Hang on. I am conscious that I have taken up a lot of time so, if you do not mind, I will move on and bring in Maggie Chapman. You will get an opportunity to make the points that you want to make later.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 2 May 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Good morning, and welcome to the 10th meeting in 2023 of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee in session 6. We have no apologies this morning.

A new member is joining our committee today. I warmly welcome Paul O’Kane, who is replacing Pam Duncan-Glancy as our Labour member. I thank Pam for her valuable contribution to the committee’s work during this parliamentary session, and I am sure that all members will join me in wishing her all the best in her new role.

Our first agenda item is to decide whether to take in private agenda item 3, under which the committee will consider the evidence that it will hear today. Do members agree to take agenda item 3 in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Asylum Seekers in Scotland

Meeting date: 2 May 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Under agenda item 2, we will hear from stakeholders who support asylum seekers in Scotland. We will hear from Pinar Aksu, human rights and advocacy co-ordinator, Maryhill Integration Network; Selina Hales, founder and director of Refuweegee; Nick Hobbs, head of advice and investigations, Children and Young People’s Commissioner Scotland; María José Pavez, policy officer, Grampian Regional Equality Council; Savan Qadir, project manager, Refugees for Justice; and Dr Sarah Stewart, volunteer and partnership manager, Friends of Scottish Settlers. You are all very welcome to the meeting.

I refer members to papers 1 and 2. After our panel members have given short opening statements, we will move to questions. We will start with Pinar Aksu.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Asylum Seekers in Scotland

Meeting date: 2 May 2023

Kaukab Stewart

A lot of hands have gone up.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Asylum Seekers in Scotland

Meeting date: 2 May 2023

Kaukab Stewart

It is very distressing to hear that. To summarise quickly, in your opinion, the right to education is not being fulfilled, there is no right to work and there is no access to money, because of the £45 limit. The impact on mental health is long and traumatic, which is very distressing to hear.

I will bring in Nick Hobbs. I am sure that you can add to Pinar Aksu’s powerful testimony, Nick.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Asylum Seekers in Scotland

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Thanks, Graham. Can we move on to Andy, please?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Asylum Seekers in Scotland

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Other panel members will wish to come in on this, so I ask them to raise their hand to let me know.

Andy, you say that the Home Office has stopped making decisions. It cannot have just stopped making decisions; it must still be making decisions. Are you saying that the decisions are not being made efficiently or that the Home Office is not devoting enough time or resources to them, or is there something else?