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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 April 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

That is fine; I will go over to SLAS.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

I suppose that there is also the cost of setting up a system to process that. I imagine that, even with a nominal fee of £30, the creation of such a system would cost quite a lot of money.

Rachel—you indicated that you might wish to come in. Please do.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Thank you for that. We are coming to the end of our session, so I want to ensure that we have covered everything. There is one area that we appear not to have touched on.

In the first instance, I ask the Law Society to expand on its argument that the rules in section 81 of the bill, which allow charities to employ solicitors to carry out reserved legal services, are not desirable and should be replaced by allowing third sector organisations to establish themselves as licensed legal service providers and to operate as alternative business structures. It would be good to get some views on that.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Thank you very much for that. That is brilliant.

We have come to the end of questions, but we have a few minutes in hand, so I want to ensure that everybody on the panel has had an opportunity to say what they wanted to say. If there is a burning topic that any of the witnesses has not managed to bring up through our questioning, and they would like the opportunity to speak on it, this is their moment.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Are you happy with that response, Karen?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

I bring in Annie Wells.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Good morning, and welcome to the 24th meeting in 2023 of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee in session 6. We have received no apologies. We are joined by members who are attending remotely.

Agenda item 1 is our fourth evidence session on the Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill. I refer members to papers 1 and 2. I welcome to the meeting Bill Alexander from the Association of Construction Attorneys; Roddy Dunlop KC, who is the dean of the Faculty of Advocates; Morag Ross KC, who is also from the Faculty of Advocates; Rachel Wood, who is the executive director of regulation from the Law Society of Scotland; David Gordon, who is the lay convener of the regulatory committee at the Law Society of Scotland; Darren Murdoch, who is the president of the Scottish Law Agents Society; and Andrew Stevenson, who is secretary of the Scottish Law Agents Society. There were lots of mouthfuls there, but we got through it. It is nice to see you all.

Before I ask you to make some brief opening remarks, I note that, as there are seven of you—we are delighted to have you here—and members have questions for you, I ask our witnesses to be succinct and to answer the questions that have been put. As there are two representatives from some bodies, perhaps only one of you—the most relevant person—should take the question.

I invite witnesses to make brief opening remarks, should they wish to do so. As I said, because we have two representatives from the Faculty of Advocates, the Law Society of Scotland and the Scottish Law Agents Society, I will leave it up to you to decide who offers the opening remarks. That being said, we start with Bill Alexander.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Thank you for that, but the average citizen on the street will find it quite difficult to see the difference between a conflict of interests and a coincidence of interests. How would you reassure them?

10:15  

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Thank you.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Thank you for that. Rachel, did you want to come in on the back of that?