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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 December 2024
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Good morning, and welcome to the 23rd meeting in 2023 of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee, in session 6. We have received no apologies this morning.

Our first agenda item is the third evidence session on the Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill. I refer members to papers 1 and 2. Members will note that the further correspondence that we have had with the Minister for Victims and Community Safety is in annexes B to D of paper 1. The Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee took evidence from the minister at its meeting last week and has subsequently written to the Lord President of the Court of Session for his thoughts on potential changes to the delegated powers provision in the bill. That letter is in annex E of paper 1. The DPLR Committee expects to report to this committee in advance of our evidence session with the minister on 5 December.

I welcome to this morning’s meeting Rosemary Agnew, who is the Scottish Public Services Ombudsman; Colin Bell, who is chair of the Scottish Solicitors’ Discipline Tribunal; and Neil Stevenson, who is chief executive of the Scottish Legal Complaints Commission. You are all very welcome.

I invite each of our witnesses to make brief opening remarks, should they wish to. I start with that offer to Rosemary Agnew.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Would you like to share it?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

I will bring in my colleague Annie Wells, who is joining us online, this morning.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Annie, do you have any supplementary questions?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

I will bring in Maggie Chapman to pursue that line of questioning.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Okay. Thank you for that.

Rosemary Agnew, what is your view on powers for professional organisations to investigate complaints on their own initiative where they arise from their regulatory monitoring systems?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Okay. Thank you.

There are proposals in the bill to give the SLCC new rule-making powers with the aim of improving complaints procedures. Is that an appropriate way to improve procedures, or should there be more detail in the bill? For example, we know that mediation is not compulsory, but should it be? It will be interesting to hear views on that. I will come to Rosemary Agnew first and then Neil Stevenson. Colin Bell, feel free to indicate if you wish to come in at any time.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Neil Stevenson wants back in.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

That was really interesting.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

The power is to be granted to the SLCC to initiate complaints in its own name when it becomes aware of a public interest issue. I am interested in getting a practical example of that, please.