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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 April 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Kaukab Stewart

Who would you like to direct that to?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Kaukab Stewart

Karen, is there anything else that you wish to pursue?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Kaukab Stewart

Thank you.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Kaukab Stewart

There will be plenty of opportunity for Heather Williams to comment. The witnesses are segueing their answers into different areas, so we will just go along with that.

That discussion was mainly about participation. I will move us on to the topic of transparency. The witnesses have already spoken about transparency in their opening statements and in their answers. I want to focus on the fact that both stakeholders and the committee made several recommendations last year on how the equality and fairer Scotland budget statement could be improved.

Changes have been made to the statement this year, including the removal of detail on how the impact of spending might have changed. It would be interesting to know what your views are on those changes. Do they increase or reduce transparency? I will come to Heather Williams first.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Kaukab Stewart

Thank you for that, Clare. You are right to highlight the challenges that exist around intersectionality. On the other side of that is silo working, and many people have grappled for a long time with incorporating one and breaking down the other.

That brings us nicely to the area of accountability and I will bring in my colleague Maggie Chapman.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Kaukab Stewart

Thank you, Clare.

Is Fulton MacGregor content with those responses? Would you like to come back in, Fulton? I see that he is content.

That concludes our formal business this morning. I thank all of our witnesses for joining us and for playing such a valuable part in our work as scrutineers. Once again, I thank them very much for their attendance. I hope that the rest of the day is enjoyable.

We will now move into private session.

11:07 Meeting continued in private until 11:39.  

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Meghan, did you want to come in on this issue?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2023

Kaukab Stewart

We will pause that for now. I will bring you back in after Meghan Gallacher.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Thank you for answering that rather cheeky question, minister. We are all well aware that the initial stages of the bill did not happen on your watch, as it were. Thank you for taking that question regardless.

I think that we all understand that reform is difficult for any organisation. As I sit here, I have been imagining the uproar that would probably be caused among members, let alone anyone else, if there was a bill to reform the Scottish Parliament, and we have only a couple of decades of history. I understand that change and reform are difficult, especially when they are applied to a highly regarded legal profession that has been there for hundreds and hundreds of years.

I am grateful that you have taken the time to give evidence today and that you have written to us. I will take you up on your offer to communicate with us fully, because we wish to do our job correctly and make sure that the reforms are robust and proportionate. In the light of that, I will also take you up on the offer you made in your opening remarks when you mentioned your letter to me. You said that you could go through the sections in the annex and offer a bit more information on them. That would be helpful for our scrutiny, so could you do that, minister?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2023

Kaukab Stewart

I am sorry to interrupt you, minister, but we have that documentation in front of us. In the interest of time, I will stop you, as that letter has been published and it is available to the public. I simply wanted to give you the opportunity to add anything further that you wanted to say.