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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 December 2024
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Is it on the back of Roddy Dunlop’s comments?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Do any of the witnesses wish to expand on the arguments that we have heard about the conflict of interests in professional bodies being regulators?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

How would the Law Society choose between its joint professional and regulatory interests when it comes to lobbying, for instance, or providing input to draft legislation?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Thank you. I turn to the Faculty of Advocates, which also has concerns about the complaints system and the role of the SLCC. I give you a wee opportunity to talk about complaints and the SLCC’s role in that regard.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Are you content with that, Fulton? I got a thumbs-up there—that is great.

I will explore the issue of complaints. In previous witness sessions, we have heard a lot on that theme. The Law Society has said that the current complaints system

“is too slow, too rigid, too complex and increasingly expensive to operate.”

I go to either Rachel Wood or David Gordon. What are your suggestions to make it less expensive and more efficient? Does the bill cover that?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

That is fine; I will go over to SLAS.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

I suppose that there is also the cost of setting up a system to process that. I imagine that, even with a nominal fee of £30, the creation of such a system would cost quite a lot of money.

Rachel—you indicated that you might wish to come in. Please do.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Thank you for that. We are coming to the end of our session, so I want to ensure that we have covered everything. There is one area that we appear not to have touched on.

In the first instance, I ask the Law Society to expand on its argument that the rules in section 81 of the bill, which allow charities to employ solicitors to carry out reserved legal services, are not desirable and should be replaced by allowing third sector organisations to establish themselves as licensed legal service providers and to operate as alternative business structures. It would be good to get some views on that.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Thank you very much for that. That is brilliant.

We have come to the end of questions, but we have a few minutes in hand, so I want to ensure that everybody on the panel has had an opportunity to say what they wanted to say. If there is a burning topic that any of the witnesses has not managed to bring up through our questioning, and they would like the opportunity to speak on it, this is their moment.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Are you happy with that response, Karen?