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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 19 April 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Collette Stevenson

I have a question on net zero prisons. One of the things that I have regularly asked about is district heating systems in, for instance, the replacement for Barlinnie.

Would you consider doing that? I do not know all the technical details, but effectively you would be providing energy for the prison and, outwith it, for the community and even for industrial estates there. You would be generating income by operating a district heating system in that public building.

09:45  

Criminal Justice Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Collette Stevenson

I asked earlier whether the Minister for Mental Wellbeing and Social Care could give evidence to the committee so that we could scrutinise him on the review of adult social care. I know that he has attended other committees, but the committee could scrutinise him on this particular area of criminal justice social work and community justice. Given what you have told us today, what key questions should the committee ask of the minister? That question is for Lynsey Smith first.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Collette Stevenson

I have an additional question on that. Have triage cars been able to attend directly, rather than putting the onus on the police?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Collette Stevenson

Yes.

Criminal Justice Committee

Correspondence

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Collette Stevenson

Obviously, that is a big issue in central Scotland compared with elsewhere, in light of the sectarianism that goes on there. I know that it is quite significant even in East Kilbride.

11:30  

One thing that I want to note is that some civic and interfaith groups—the local chapel and churches are involved, for example—are working together to set up activities that are aimed at stopping sectarianism in schools. The groups have approached community councils and local authorities to seek more funding to deliver those to pupils in first and second year, because it is a big issue.

I know that I am slightly digressing from the issue of marches and parades, but all aspects of sectarianism have an impact. Those groups use a good model: they transport pupils to different areas or they teach them about the impact that sectarianism has.

In relation to the letter, I want some clarification on where the Government is trying to move the model to.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Collette Stevenson

In your written submission, you touched on the current contract for the prison transport service, saying that

“the ... cost model is no longer fit for purpose.”

You mentioned, for example, court backlogs, increased hospital bed watches and virtual courts. Will you expand on that and on what we can do better?

I understand that the current contract is for eight years. Getting out of that contract would be an efficiency in itself, if you like. Will you explain and expand on that?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Collette Stevenson

I will touch on what Russell Findlay said about the transfer of Kilmarnock prison. Forgive me if I am wrong on this—perhaps you could clarify it, Ms Sinclair-Gieben—but if the private staff from Serco were to be transferred over to His Majesty’s service, would pension costs be involved? I am certain that, when staff are moved over under the Transfer of Undertakings (Protection of Employment) Regulations, pensions are ring fenced so that they are outwith TUPE. It costs significantly more for such pensions to go into public pension schemes.

10:45  

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Collette Stevenson

I know from being an ex-independent prison monitor and picking up some casework to do with—

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Collette Stevenson

Thank you—taught by the best, believe you me.

A few of the cases that I picked up were to do with transportation. You mentioned the ageing demographic of the prisoners. When they are transferred—if someone is in Shotts and has to go up to court in Inverness, for example—they are stuck in a cage in that transport and could be sitting there for quite a length of time. How can that change? What is the impact on their human rights?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Collette Stevenson

Do you know offhand the cost of the contract for GEOAmey?