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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 19 December 2024
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Jim Fairlie

I am sorry; could you repeat that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Jim Fairlie

Monica, you go first; my apologies.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Jim Fairlie

I will go to Douglas Lumsden first and then come back to Mark Ruskell.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Jim Fairlie

Will the member take an intervention?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Jim Fairlie

I did not say that I am confident about that; I said that it is a possibility. SPT is putting huge amounts of time and resource into the process of looking at its financial model and everything else that it will have to do. The current position means that we are going to stall the progress of the legislation that would allow SPT to set up a franchise. If the regulations do not pass, SPT will have to decide whether it wants to continue putting the time and resource into that effort when it is not sure what the direction of travel will be.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Jim Fairlie

I have not had any discussions with SPT. I am merely making the point that a huge amount of time and resource goes into the work that it is having to do around the process. If the instrument stalls today, I anticipate there being a risk that SPT could say that, until there is clarity on and certainty about what the legislation will do, it will pause spending money and putting resource into the process. I am merely making the point that that is a risk.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Jim Fairlie

There does. It is in primary legislation.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Jim Fairlie

No, I do not think that that is correct: we would have to change the 2019 act. That could not be done in a short timescale. I keep reiterating that we either pass the regulations or we do not, and we have already debated the consequences of that.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Jim Fairlie

The assurance that I can give the committee is that, if we approve the instrument, I will come back to the committee with the guidance as it develops. The committee can then scrutinise that guidance before it goes into the traffic commissioner’s remit. However, once it becomes part of the traffic commissioner’s remit, it is his or hers, because the whole purpose of the regulations is to cut the umbilical cord between the political side of things and deliver a process that the people of Scotland want. I am more than happy to come back to the committee to talk about the guidance and to try to get that agreed as we go forward. I can give that commitment.

There were other interventions. Was it Douglas Lumsden?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Jim Fairlie

We have not spoken specifically about the SSI.