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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 April 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Jim Fairlie

I have a minor point. We have been talking about how we define the terms in the bill. I was looking recently at the Hill Farming Act 1946 in order to discover things about muirburn. The 1946 act prescribed that only specific types of tups could be used, as defined by the minister. How many ministers know what a good hill tup looks like and what its function should be? There is a danger that if we are very prescriptive, we will send farming in a particular direction. We surely have to look at something that allows ministers to let the industry develop the objectives in the bill.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Jim Fairlie

You said that food security is a public good. My understanding has always been that food production and food security have never been regarded as a public good on the basis of public support.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Jim Fairlie

Something has just popped into my head—it may be absolute nonsense, so please feel free to shoot it down.

I go back to the point that David Thomson made about farmers having to meet particular requirements in order to supply whoever. We have QMS, Tesco and Marks and Spencer, all with different schemes that are asking for different things. If we want to make things as simple as possible for farmers, who are already fully stretched to the limit of their resilience with regard to being able to continue what they are doing, is there an opportunity in the bill for us to put in place one single scheme, which everybody accepts is the standard?

I am talking purely from the farmer’s point of view. Farmers may say, “Oh my god—here’s another layer of something that we have to deal with.” How do we take that burden off them and allow CPD to be something that they want to buy into?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Jim Fairlie

On the basis of trying to get a market advantage.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Jim Fairlie

I am sorry. I did not finish the point that was in my head—it stopped. It was about considering the whole market supply chain. Should we be looking at the situation from the perspective of the whole market? Earlier, we discussed how the supermarket adjudicator only stops at that door rather than going right through the whole supply chain. If we are going to put in a requirement for CPD, should we not consider that it is everybody’s responsibility and ensure that we are not taking it to the point where it is all detrimental to the farmers?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Historic Environment Strategy

Meeting date: 7 December 2023

Jim Fairlie

There is a wee issue that I am curious about. We have just finished building our house, and the biggest problem that we had was getting people to do the stonemasonry. Will the United Kingdom Government’s new immigration system allow people with the skill set to do stonemasonry to come into the country? Obviously, there are big gaps. You said that there are 2 million stone-built buildings in this country, and we definitely do not have enough stonemasons. Are we able to bring in people with the requisite skills from European countries to help to fill the gaps?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 7 December 2023

Jim Fairlie

Good morning, convener. I have no interests to declare.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Jim Fairlie

The range of the discussion shows the complexity of what we are trying to do. We started off talking about objectives. The bill says:

“For the purposes of this Act, the objectives of agricultural policy are—

(a) the adoption and use of sustainable and regenerative agricultural practices”.

What is the definition of that?

Part 1 of the Scottish Government’s route map for agricultural reform says that the goals of regenerative agriculture include

“Improving animal welfare ... Increasing climate-resilience of production ... Capturing carbon in soils and vegetation ... Enhancing water quality and supply in the landscape”

and

“Supporting thriving biodiversity and ecosystem health”.

We also have to ensure that we are producing high-quality food. Nigel Miller just talked about what the code of practice should look like and said that it has to be a manual that farmers can work to, but how do you do that across the whole of such a diverse country and when there is such diversity on individual farms?

The point that I am trying to make is that this is a framework bill, so there is no way to make one size fit all throughout. It will have to be almost regional in its approach. The Government has set out a route map to allow us to get to where we are now and the framework bill is the only way that we can achieve all our aims.

This is just one round table; there will be others at which even more demands will be made of the bill. Are we right to have a framework bill, and will the work have to be done on a regional basis?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Jim Fairlie

I have a slight concern about that. We have had such things happen in the past, particularly in my constituency, and they have led to a huge amount of forage being taken out of the marketplace, which has then pushed up the price of forage for livestock producers who live in the same area. There is an opportunity cost to everything that we do, is there not?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Jim Fairlie

Okay. Thank you.