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Which is what?

I echo what you just said, Grant. There must be far more integration and the farming community must be taken along with that project.

At the moment, there are undoubtedly real tensions. I keep being sent articles that say that grazed land will sequestrate as much carbon as forestry or that trees will do more damage and it takes 25 years to get it back, for example. However, you are right that there is far more to the matter than carbon sequestration. What you and David Signorini said gives me some comfort that you will start to consider the matter much more holistically so that the farming community is part of the process, as opposed to it being a case of forestry against farming.

I asked David Signorini whether Scottish Forestry is able to allow farmers to plant orchards, which are far more open, on their farms. I know that it is not workable with the current system, but does Scottish Forestry have the power to integrate such planting on farms? We talk about regenerative farming and one of the things that we are supposed to be doing is ensuring that we have good woodland. We cannot just put it to the side and leave it as done. If there is an opportunity to be able to graze in between it and get another crop off it, that must surely be beneficial for a regenerative farming system.

Sorry, David—I am giving you a grilling here. How do you answer the accusation that Scottish Forestry is allowing private investors to greenwash the businesses that they run when they are not changing them?

I am afraid that you are getting another question. As somebody who knows nothing about fishing, it sounds a wee bit like the wild west out there.

You said that you were funded by the EU on a two-year project. How much was that funding, and who did you say you applied to afterwards for funding, when your application was refused? I missed that last bit.

Thank you.

I ask Larry Flanagan the same question.

Larry Flanagan or Margaret Wilson, do either of you want to add anything to that?

I left the best until last.

I thank the witnesses for coming along today. I want to go back to vaccinations for a second. Ultimately, we all know that that is the road out of our current situation, or, at least, the road to our being able to manage our lives in future.

Gary Greenhorn, you said earlier that you do not know how many members of staff are not vaccinated. Do you think that we should know how many staff have been vaccinated?

Thanks very much. Does anybody else want to add to that?