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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 10 July 2025
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COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Excess Deaths Inquiry

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Jim Fairlie

I understand that there might not be a huge amount of sympathy, but it takes 10 years to get a GP up to that standard, and we do not want them leaving the service 10 years sooner than they might otherwise have done.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Jim Fairlie

I whole-heartedly agree with Mr Mason.

Murdo Fraser has just said that, by and large, the people of this country follow the rules or guidance but I recall that, in the chamber earlier this week, Sandesh Gulhane opposed the wearing of masks, saying that most people do not wear them properly anyway. I do not see the consistency in the message. Right now, given the numbers that we have, it would be crazy to do anything other than keep the possibility of using restrictions if we need them.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Excess Deaths Inquiry

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Jim Fairlie

I want to go back to Murdo Fraser’s original question about access to GPs and the hybrid model. Last week, I asked our witnesses whether we should give people the understanding that the hybrid model will be the way in which they see their GP in future. One response that I found interesting—I apologise, but I cannot remember the name of the lady who said it—was that it would very much depend on how the patients accept it, or words to that effect.

You say that we are going to proceed with the hybrid model. Does the Scottish Government have to do a messaging job to get people to understand that? How will you put people’s minds at ease about how they will be seen going forward?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Jim Fairlie

Okay. I genuinely take your point, but I am asking these questions. We are also talking about people’s perception of where we are with the virus. You spoke earlier—quite rightly—about people seeing omicron as being okay because it is milder, and you want to flip that view around. However, it seems to me that taking away testing adds another layer of complacency to people’s thinking.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Jim Fairlie

Okay—thank you. Do I have time to ask about outbreak management, convener?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Jim Fairlie

Mr Swinney, Alex Rowley asked whether testing will continue to be free for people, and you said yes. However, John Mason then asked whether people will have to pay for it after April. I am confused by your answers. Have I picked them up wrongly?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Jim Fairlie

In April?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Excess Deaths Inquiry

Meeting date: 10 March 2022

Jim Fairlie

Dr Fenton, following up on that process, I note that, in its evidence, Health and Social Care Alliance Scotland states that access to doctors was an issue. Doctors have talked to the committee about the enormous strain that they are under, but there seems to be a perception among the public that people cannot get to see their GP. Clearly, it has been necessary for processes to change in order to deal with the pandemic, but will people just have to accept that getting access to a GP will have to be done differently?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Excess Deaths Inquiry

Meeting date: 10 March 2022

Jim Fairlie

Right. Would you like to come in on that as well, Lawrence?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Excess Deaths Inquiry

Meeting date: 10 March 2022

Jim Fairlie

The last point that I would make is that we are not quite out of the pandemic yet, either.