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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 16 February 2026
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Jim Fairlie

Given the point that the convener made about vexatious claims and actions by people who have a distinct distrust and dislike of grouse moors, does it seem fair to add a sanction to grouse moors that does not apply to other rural businesses?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Jim Fairlie

Thank you.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Jim Fairlie

I presume that the code is being worked up with stakeholders.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Jim Fairlie

If you could come back to us, that would be grand.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Jim Fairlie

I have a great deal of sympathy for you when it comes to trying to get workable legislation, because there are considerations of livestock, of grouse moors, of wildlife and of the environment. It will be difficult to get the right balance. I am not going to ask any more questions. I will think a bit more before I open my mouth.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Jim Fairlie

What evidence is there to justify the need for additional regulation of grouse moors? Has an on-going link been established between grouse moor management and raptor persecution, and why is licensing preferred to the alternatives? What alternatives did you consider?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Jim Fairlie

What alternatives were considered? You have introduced vicarious liability and taken measures to do away with poisons, as you said. Was there any option other than licensing at this stage? Why did vicarious liability not work?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Jim Fairlie

Why should there be a revocation of a licence provision for those acts on grouse moors? Are there not already fairly stringent penalties for perpetrators of those acts? Why should the revocation of a licence be added to that?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Jim Fairlie

We have all the other sanctions in the definitions of relevant offences in the legislation that I spoke about earlier. It goes back to the earlier point about a vexatious claim if someone’s business is suspended on 12 August and how that will have a real impact.

I am asking these questions because they might be the main areas of debate as we go forward with the bill. Is it fair to add the revocation of a licence to the sanctions that already exist? What would be the methods of ensuring that people were not targeted?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Jim Fairlie

We had similar conversations during the passage of the Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill. In that case, we established the need for a good working relationship between NatureScot and land managers to ensure that this type of thing is taken into account in procedures. The bit that concerns me slightly is not the revocation of a licence—I have no qualms about that—but the suspension of a licence. In that respect, we need to ensure that a good relationship exists between NatureScot and land managers. Are we doing anything to encourage that?