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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 23 December 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Jim Fairlie

Sorry, I am hogging the session. I apologise. With the convener’s permission I will ask one final question. If we are to get consumers in this country to demand Scotch beef, Scotch lamb or specially selected pork, surely we have to be looking for a point of differentiation. That cannot be just the badge. It has to be something else, such as eating quality, taste and all those kinds of things.

I have a problem with our grading system. Other parts of the world are looking at grading their beef, in particular, with a focus on eating quality. My view is that there is a much better eating quality with native breeds—Angus, Galloway, Highlanders—but we are not looking at the shape of the animal before it goes to slaughter. What is QMS’s view on the grading system?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Jim Fairlie

We are traditionally a “stack it high, sell it low” economy, and people in this country are used to cheap food. The supermarkets tell us that they respond to consumer demand. The cost of production in this country is always higher because of the standards that we set—standards that we, as a Government and as consumers, expect from our producers—yet that cost is never reflected in the shelf price. How do we ask consumers to put pressure on supermarkets and demand that product when people are struggling to pay their everyday bills?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Jim Fairlie

I want to go back to the point about euthanasia. I presume that, when you get to the point at which a dog is going to be euthanised because it is unsuitable for rehoming, that is because of a severe injury, the dog’s temperament or whatever. How did you manage to reduce the number from 190 to 13? What made a difference? Why did people change their minds about euthanasia?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Jim Fairlie

I have to admit that I have never been to a dog track in my life and I have no idea what it is like, but I have raced pigeons, I have been to agility tests and sheepdog trials, and I have worked with animals most of my working life.

What I am getting from all the evidence that we have been presented with and from hearing from what I would like to call the professional side of the business and from the side that Paul Brignal seems to be on is that two fundamentally different things are happening here. The amateur side that you are working on, Paul—and please correct me if I am wrong; this is my assumption—is based on people who own their dogs. The dogs are part of the family. They go to the racing and that is part of their everyday life. Those dogs are cared for and treated in the same way as pets, except that they race around a track, whereas some of the evidence that we have taken is that big breeders produce lots of pups specifically with the purpose of racing them at the highest level and, if those dogs do not hit the highest level, they are no longer needed by the people who breed them or train them. Am I wrong in making that assumption?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Jim Fairlie

However, the evidence that we have taken from the SAWC and from the GBGB is that there is much more of a professional take on it, with the point of view that the dog is a commodity rather than part of the family. That is the point that I am trying to make.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Jim Fairlie

Does Mark Bird or Madeleine Campbell want to come in on that?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Jim Fairlie

We also need capacity in processing and slaughtering. A lot of those lads came from eastern Europe, went home and have not come back. If we are talking about resilience and profitability, we need people in those jobs. However, the Scottish Government has no locus in any of the immigration policies, so how does the bill rectify that?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Convener

Meeting date: 20 April 2023

Jim Fairlie

Thank you very much, deputy convener.

My first act as convener is to conclude the public part of our meeting.

09:05 Meeting continued in private until 10:05.  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 April 2023

Jim Fairlie

If you are going to rewild or plant trees in those areas, how many tenant farmers have you spoken to about that system? The landowner might get something out of changing over to rewilding, but what about the tenant farmers? There are many tenant farmers in LFA areas.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 April 2023

Jim Fairlie

I accept that we can do tree planting or all of those things, but we should still have livestock as part of the equation. I simply cannot see how you can take livestock out of the natural cycle.