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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 10 December 2025
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Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Shark Fins Bill

Meeting date: 25 January 2023

Jim Fairlie

The point that I want to make is that we are banning the import of whole shark fins, but we would still be encouraging the trade if we allowed processed shark fins to come into the country as a product to be consumed.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Genetic Technology (Precision Breeding) Bill

Meeting date: 25 January 2023

Jim Fairlie

I apologise. The papers were not clear.

Has there been any intergovernmental discussion about the regulation of new genetic techniques in the future, including the extent to which the common frameworks process has already been used?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Shark Fins Bill

Meeting date: 25 January 2023

Jim Fairlie

One point that I want to get on record, which we can see in our briefing paper, is the sheer scale of the issue—97 million sharks are killed for 16,000 to 17,000 tonnes of fins, which is horrendous.

The cabinet secretary mentioned shark fin soup in tins. Do we import tins of shark fin soup, and where do they come from?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Genetic Technology (Precision Breeding) Bill

Meeting date: 25 January 2023

Jim Fairlie

I will follow on from what the minister has just said. The convener asked whether there is anywhere where you see the powers being used, but I am looking at the letter that the UK Government sent to you. It says:

“We have been clear that we do not presently intend to amend the GM regulatory regime in Scotland to remove categories of products which are currently regulated as GMOs. The views of stakeholders in Scotland will be central to decision-making in this devolved area of responsibility”.

That concerns me greatly. Does the UK Government intend to go beyond the Scottish Government to speak to stakeholders first, before it comes to the Scottish Government? Also, the word “presently” concerns me. It indicates to me that what the UK Government is actually saying is that it may, at some point, decide to go beyond the Scottish Government’s devolved powers so that it can make decisions at Westminster. Is that your interpretation of that letter?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Genetic Technology (Precision Breeding) Bill

Meeting date: 25 January 2023

Jim Fairlie

I will leave it there.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Monitoring Covid-19 Recovery

Meeting date: 19 January 2023

Jim Fairlie

There is a feeling that we could have planned ahead better, which leads me on to a further source of confusion—there is a lot of that in this evidence session, I have to tell you.

We have an excellent performance framework, but a link to the budget is missing. Other countries link the two. What other countries do it the way that Scotland does it? Why is it done in that way, rather than by linking the budget to the performance framework?

I am sorry—I am not asking you to look at the issue from Scotland’s point of view. I am asking about what happens in other countries that you deal with; I know that you have not had a direct link to Scotland.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Monitoring Covid-19 Recovery

Meeting date: 19 January 2023

Jim Fairlie

You have actually led me very neatly on to my next question by talking about what data is included. Brian Whittle stated that we had a bigger cost during Covid because of our particular health challenges. Is that correct? Has Scotland had to pay more during Covid because of our particular health challenges? Has it cost us more, financially, than other countries because of Scotland’s health challenges?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Monitoring Covid-19 Recovery

Meeting date: 19 January 2023

Jim Fairlie

Your point that what goes into a budget never comes out of it again is a really interesting one. In other words, once it is tied in, it is baked into future spending so that the money is never lost. Speaking anecdotally, local authorities will spend money at the end of a financial term in order to get rid of it, so that they do not lose it out of the budget. We have forward spending reviews, but you are saying that we could help to tackle those issues by having previous spending reviews to look at how the money was spent and whether that gave us value for money. Is that what you are saying? I am putting it in very simplistic terms.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 19 January 2023

Jim Fairlie

Do the spending reviews look back?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Monitoring Covid-19 Recovery

Meeting date: 19 January 2023

Jim Fairlie

I have listened to all the questions and answers, which has given me a very splattered picture of where we are. We have a spending review that is not actually a spending review—it is a forward plan—but we are not looking back to see whether we have spent the money wisely. You will have to bear with me, because I am trying to piece all this together as I go along.

In response to Murdo Fraser’s questions, you talked about the fiscal consolidating that was done in 2008. During Covid, we spent money regardless—it was just paid for—but lessons were learned from the 2008 crisis. I know that this is a big ask, but if we take the war in Ukraine and the energy situation that that created out of the picture, could the current cost of living crisis, which has been exacerbated, have been predicted from applying the lessons of 2008 to the massive spend during Covid, when economies stopped working? It is a wee bit like putting a dam in water—once you lift the dam, the water flushes out. Should we have known what the effects would be? Could we have better predicted the cost of living crisis, given the spending that we racked up during Covid?