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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 April 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Jim Fairlie

And from you.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Jim Fairlie

The response that I sent you at the time set out all the things that I am reiterating to you today. The crofting community accepted that it wanted to be part of the scheme because it played a role in it, and we will continue to provide that community with as much help and support as we can so that it can get involved. We will continue to have those conversations with it.

If you are asking me to take the crofting community out of the scheme, I do not think that it wants that or that we want to do that through the SSI. We want to get everybody involved in the system as much as we can.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Jim Fairlie

They would all be relevant, yes.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Jim Fairlie

You are asking me about a specific letter, but I have no idea of the background. As far as I am aware, no one has told us that they are not prepared to take part. However, please send the letter to my office and we will have a look at it to work out what is happening. Without understanding the size of the farm in question, what type of farm it is or anything else, I am afraid that I simply cannot comment on what you have just put to me.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Jim Fairlie

The numbers that I have in front of me show that 3,255 farmers and crofters have carried out soil testing and 2,718 have carried out carbon auditing as part of the programme.

Bear in mind that there are farmers who already do those things as part of their normal practices and the process is about bringing everybody into the system. Amy Geddes—I spoke about her earlier—has, like a number of people, been doing it for years.

I reiterate that this is the start of the process of bringing everybody into the system, which will allow us to have a much better understanding of what we are doing.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Jim Fairlie

No, I do not, because the crofting community has been a part of the conversation since day 1. Donald MacKinnon was part of the steering group that helped to develop the legislation. It has been discussed at ARIOB. However, I go back to my earlier point: Donna Smith has written to me and I will ask her to come in and outline what those concerns are.

We are trying to give people as much help as we can in order to fulfil our aims. There are thousands of crofters, and they have to be a part of the process. We will do as much as we can to bring them with us, and we will provide as much help and support as we can. I feel that we have done the work with them, through consultation, but I am more than happy to continue that conversation in order to get us to a place where they feel that they are part of the system.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Jim Fairlie

I agree—but the opportunity exists for them to come in early on in the process. I am trying to find my list of what we have coming up. There is a list of opportunities for engagement across all sectors, so I encourage people, if they are watching this meeting, to pay attention, please, to what is happening and what is coming so that they can engage as early as possible and we do not get to the position that we are in currently.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Jim Fairlie

The only word that I disagree with in what you have said is “suddenly”, because we are not suddenly asking people to do this; we have been trying to get people into the mindset that change is coming. However, I agree 100 per cent with everything else that you said.

We have just announced an extra £75,000 for the Royal Scottish Agricultural Benevolent Institution. I am acutely aware of mental health issues in the farming community. I take the issue seriously, and I am glad that the First Minister has committed to investing that money. This needs to be—to use an oft-used phrase—a just transition. People need to feel that they are taking part in the process, rather than it being done to them.

As the debates and discussions that we have had today have shown, there is an element of disagreement on whether we have done enough. I firmly believe that we have, and we have taken on board the views of the group that was set up to look at the issue in the first place, but I absolutely take the point that I need to find a way to get people to engage with me far sooner, so that I understand what the issues are, long before we get to the stage where I am sitting in front of you with members of the committee telling me that they want to discuss matters that have been raised with them in letters. That is not where we need to be. I want us to be in a much more practical and better place than we currently are with regard to the situation that we are in.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Jim Fairlie

I would dispute your characterisation, convener.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Jim Fairlie

I will ask Iain Carmichael to come in. He has been dealing specifically with this issue.