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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 12 July 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Jim Fairlie

With regard to your specific question, the answer is no—I have not asked them to do that. However, I have asked them to consider whether young people who have the pass are using the bus. If those young people are transferring to being habitual bus users—and the next generation will also be getting their free bus pass—the scheme will be creating an environment of bus use.

I have not looked at the specific areas that you asked about, but with regard to the overall picture, I am looking at how the young persons pass is delivering behavioural change.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Jim Fairlie

I cannot definitively answer whether it affects rural areas, but my sense is that it definitely does. I say that as an MSP with a rural constituency, knowing that I see rural bus services declining. Again, we are actively looking at how to address that, but it is not easy, because it is a deregulated industry.

To go back to the point that Mark Ruskell made about public funds going into a service, we have very little in the way of levers to determine where services are. Again, that comes back to franchising and the other powers that we are putting into the hands of local authorities.

There is an awful lot of stuff in the mix about how we are going to improve the service, which goes back to my earlier point. We are looking at different areas. We want to get the best value for public money, make sure that people are using the buses and work with private enterprises.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Jim Fairlie

When it comes to bus companies increasing their prices in order to take advantage of the scheme, the scheme has mechanisms that would bring the reimbursement rate down. The other thing is that, if prices are increased for passengers, people will stop using the bus, so that is a disincentive.

If you want to get into the details of how the formula was designed, I will bring Gary McIntyre in to discuss that. However, the simple answer to your question is that mechanisms are in place to ensure that bus companies get the benefit of the scheme, as do passengers and the public purse. It is a fine balance, which is kept by very clever people working on formulas that make sense and are agreed with the CPT.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Jim Fairlie

I cannot answer that, unless Carole Stewart wants to chip in as to whether there has been a reduction in the network support grant usage.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Jim Fairlie

The pilot will run from January 2026 to January 2027.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Jim Fairlie

We will let you know if it is Aberdeen in due course.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Jim Fairlie

I will add to that. One of the things that I considered during my discussions with Bettina Sizeland is how we ensure that we are creating behavioural change and habit-forming behaviours. We are actively looking to see whether, when people are no longer eligible for a pass, they continue to use the bus or buy their first car. It is difficult to gauge that, but we are actively trying to understand whether we are genuinely creating the behavioural change that we are looking for. It will take us a bit of time to do that.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Jim Fairlie

I get that people do not get to use all the ferries all the time, but I would note that in 2021 an island communities impact assessment concluded that ferry travel should not be included in the scheme at that time. We have some ferry concessions for younger people, and, as I have said, I would like to do more. I fully understand, and fully take on board, the connectivity issues faced by island and peninsular communities, and if we had more money to do as you suggest, we would do it. However, we do not, but I will continue to actively look at how we can make connectivity better for the island communities.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Jim Fairlie

You are right. I am wrestling with that. It is all very well having a bus pass, but if people do not have a bus to go on, they cannot use that pass. I absolutely accept that.

It goes back to the point that I have made to a number of members. The loss of routes is incredibly frustrating. Local authorities and bus operators make those decisions. We are limited in what we can do. We can put funding into various things. The concessionary travel scheme is working, but I absolutely take the point that you made that, if there is no bus available, the scheme is not working for those people who are affected. I am actively looking at the ability to make better provision in areas where the bus services are not as good as they should be.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Jim Fairlie

I do not have data to say that, but we have seen an increase in people, in particular young people, using the bus.