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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 April 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Jim Fairlie

I am trying to think of the right way to phrase this. The 70:30 split is kind of where we are already. The 30 per cent is the greening element and the 70 per cent is the base payment. The decision was taken to keep within those spheres at this stage. That does not mean that they will stay that way, but that is where the split is to allow us to transition.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Jim Fairlie

To answer the first question, the 2024 act will be implemented this year. We will use both acts as we introduce new legislation. If it is a legacy matter, the 2020 act will be used; if we introduce new provisions, the 2024 act will be used. That will be the process.

Everybody recognises that coming out of the EU was a fundamental shift for all of us, because we had worked with the common agricultural policy for the period of our membership and we are now working with a completely new system. That shift has had to be made in conjunction with the industry, the sectors that are affected and the Government to allow everyone to get into the position that we are now in. We are now in a fairly positive place in that we are delivering on the objectives of the policies that the Government has set and on the farming industry’s requirements. The issue is how we will work as a community to deliver the outcomes. I hope that that answers your question.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Jim Fairlie

Are you talking about the provisions in our current work to transition from the legacy to the current position?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Jim Fairlie

At this stage, I am going to say no. We are bringing in the policy that we currently have, but I am not ruling out the potential for changes once we start to see how it functions.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Jim Fairlie

The Government will decide the way forward, but it will be based on all the information, advice and help that we are given by the industry, by non-governmental organisations and by everybody else who is part of that conversation.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Jim Fairlie

EFA is the ecological—sorry, but I have lost the term myself.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Jim Fairlie

EFA means ecological focus area. There are particular plants that encourage pollinators, and there are beetle banks, hedgerows and buffer zones. Amy Geddes is working on her soil by looking at what it is currently doing and what more it could do. It is brilliant stuff. Some fantastic work is already happening, like the work that Tom Bowser is doing at Argaty.

Those things that people are already doing are the kind of things that we want other people to think about as they consider whether they could adopt a similar approach and what the outcomes would be for them. The people who are in the lead and already doing that work could probably indicate what that might mean for others, but every farm is going to be different and every farmer has to take their own personal view on what will work for them. We have had conversations here before about how each farm is different because Scotland is a diverse place, and farms are also diverse within areas.

The measures will not be prescriptive. People will be able to look at what is available and decide how it will work for them and help them to achieve what we are asking them to do.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Jim Fairlie

That is what we are working on right now with the development of the whole-farm plan. I know that it is difficult because everyone is busy, but we are asking people to take a wee step back and think about what that looks like for them and how they can make it work in their operation.

I fully understand that people might not want to do that because they feel that they are doing too much already and because they have always had the single farm payment, but we have made it clear from the outset that that will not be the case and that it will not be business as usual. We are going to ask people to do more.

The process that we are in now and all the discussions that we have had today are part of that process, and we are relaying those conversations to the industry so that people absolutely get the direction of travel and know that we will be asking them to start thinking about doing those things in the longer term and working out what that looks like for them.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Jim Fairlie

We are working towards making sure that that delivery will happen.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Jim Fairlie

I am not saying that the system cannot deliver the four tiers; I am saying that I will write to you to clarify.